I don't know why the library won't read. All I know is that it won't. ;-)
On 9/19/09, Jose Lomeli <[email protected]> wrote: > Man! Thank you moderator! I was getting tired of seeing this > topic in my inbox everyday! Please knock it off! I get over 100 > messages per day! I will stop ranting about it now! > Jose Lomeli > Email: [email protected] > Website: > http://All4Webs.com/q/2/jlomeli9393 > BrailleNote mPOWER user. > Keysoft version 8.0 build 20 > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Moderator" <[email protected] >>To: <[email protected] >>Date sent: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:34:29 -0400 >>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > >>Okay folks, take this one off-list, it has nothing to do with > Jaws. >>Let's remember, this is the Jaws -users list not System Access. >>Richard Q. Justice-list moderator >>[email protected] >>[email protected] >>[email protected] > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[email protected] >>To: <[email protected] >>Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 4:18 AM >>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>> System Access is the commercial version of Serotek's screen > reader. System >>> Access to Go is similar, however it's free to use and runs > inside your >>> browser. The browser must be open for System Access to Go to > operate. You >>> can try it now at www.satogo.com. Hope this helps. > > > >>> -- >>> Chris Hallsworth >>> E-mail: [email protected] >>> MSN: [email protected] >>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266 >>> Yahoo! Messenger: [email protected] >>> Klango: chrishallsworth > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Sarah anson >>> Sent: 19 September 2009 4:17 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > >>> what is the difference between system access and system access > to go? >>> Sarah A. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Michael Hansen" <[email protected] >>> To: <[email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:06 AM >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>> Yes, in short, System Access (and System Access to Go) is the > only >>>> thing that works with iTunes right now. I don't know what the > SA >>>> "mouse over" command is, but still...it works. The format kind > of >>>> reminds me of AmazonMP3, which is fine. >>>> Also, I don't know why the library won't read if it has been > upgraded >>>> previously--perhaps because the file contains "upgraded" data? > >>>> On 9/17/09, Sarah anson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Yes, I have tried that. Am using a laptop though. I think the >>>>> commands are the same cause I tried a moseover on a sample > freedom >>>>> scientific page and it works fine. BAut, in itunes it doesn't. >>>>> 8.2 is very easy. And, if you hit enter on a song it will play > the >>>>> preview unlike version 9. 8.2 I had no probs with using jaws > 10. >>>>> Sarah A. > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Donald Marang" <[email protected] >>>>> To: <[email protected] >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:20 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>I am just getting started with iTunes. Even version 8.2.1 seems > hard >>>>>>to get it to do what I want to do at this point. I noticed that > you >>>>>>mention that you should be able to get a preview in the store by >>>>>>performing a mouseover. When JAWS is focused on a song in the > store, >>>>>>have you attempted > >>>>>>the "activate mouseover" keystroke? On a desktop keyboard, that >>>>>>would be the Control + Insert + NumPad Enter. I am not sure how > this >>>>>>differs from hovering the mouse over an object by routing the > JAWS >>>>>>cursor to the PC cursor with the Insert + NumPad Minus. I would > try >>> both. > >>>>>> Don Marang > > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Sarah anson" <[email protected] >>>>>> To: <[email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:33 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>I tried the system access. It seems to be working exactly the > same >>>>>>>as jaws > >>>>>>>when I am browsing the itunes store. >>>>>>> It won't let me mouseover a song, so I don't know how you're >>>>>>>supposed to be previewing it. >>>>>>> It is probably me it just seems that the itunes is workign the > same >>>>>>>as it > >>>>>>> was in jaws. It's not reading link link link over and over > towards >>>>>>> the beginning of the page, but other then that it's about the > same. >>>>>>> Maybe i'm > >>>>>>> doing or have something set wrong. >>>>>>> Also, I know this is unjaws related, but where'd the put the > free >>>>>>> on itunes page? >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> sarah A. > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <[email protected] >>>>>>> To: <[email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:08 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>> Prio to the development of VoiceOver, Apple took no steps > towards >>>>>>>> making > >>>>>>>> their computers accessible. Rather, they relied on third party >>>>>>>> developers to write programs for accessibility. This is similar >>>>>>>> to how Microsoft has interfaced with screen reader developers. >>>>>>>> However, Microsoft and companies like Freedom Scientific and GW >>>>>>>> Micro have tended > >>>>>>>> to work more closely together than Apple and the previous >>>>>>>> developers of screen readers for Apple computers. > >>>>>>>> When the last of these third party developers announced that it >>>>>>>> would no > >>>>>>>> longer be developing or upgrading its screen reading program, >>>>>>>> Apple needed to address the void that would be created. It > needed >>>>>>>> to do so, because of increasing criticism of its hands off > policy >>>>>>>> and because it needed to have its products accessible to meet >>>>>>>> contracting requirements for many governemental entities. At >>>>>>>> least in part, that is why Apple undertook development of >>>>>>>> VoiceOver. > >>>>>>>> Before the development of VoiceOver, Apple wanted to attract > those >>>>>>>> who used Windows to its Ipod products. That is why it developed >>>>>>>> both a Mac version and eventually a Windows version. Again > there >>>>>>>> were many motives, but much had to do with the economics of the >>>>>>>> music industry. > >>>>>>>> By reverting to form, in this instance, I suggest that with >>>>>>>> respect othe > >>>>>>>> Windows version of Itunes, apple is seeking to force the screen >>>>>>>> reader developers to play ball their way rather than building a >>>>>>>> program/site that conforms readily to Windows standard controls > and >>> structures. >>>>>>>> Why >>>>>>>> they are doing this, I don't have a clue. > >>>>>>>> I think that if you'd like to continue this discussion, we've >>>>>>>> reached the point where it should go off list > >>>>>>>> I thank the moderators indulgence to this point. > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Sarah >>>>>>>> anson >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:55 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > >>>>>>>> Hmmm. Enteresting...So what do you mean by reversion to form >>>>>>>> windows? Tey are trying to make itunes 9.0 look more like a >>>>>>>> windows program? >>>>>>>> And by apple giving stuff to third party, you mean someone else >>>>>>>> designes > >>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>> programs and then apple puts there name on them? >>>>>>>> Sarah A. > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <[email protected] >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:35 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>>> The basic operating systems are very different. To program for >>>>>>>>> accessibility in one environment does not mean that it will be >>>>>>>>> programmed correctly for another. > >>>>>>>>> Apple, it seems to me, has a history of pushing development of >>>>>>>>> solutions to third parties. VoiceOver is a departure from this >>>>>>>>> approach, but it feels as if their approach to the changes in >>>>>>>>> Itunes 9 is a reversion to form for Windows based programs. > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> Sarah anson >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:31 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > >>>>>>>>> Well, then how come it works on the mac. Don't you I mean they >>>>>>>>> have to program voiceover. How can something work with one > screen >>>>>>>>> reader and not another? >>>>>>>>> Sarah A > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:14 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>>>> It is also the fault of the programmers who do not write >>>>>>>>>> cstandard code that can be accessed by screen readers. > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tim >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:18 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > >>>>>>>>>> It is accessible using a mac with voice over, but on windows >>>>>>>>>> with wineyes or jaws expect some parts not to be accessible. >>>>>>>>>> That is the fault of the screen readers and what they support. > >>>>>>>>>> At 06:17 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>I have another question about itunes. >>>>>>>>>>>If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my >>>>>>>>>>>itunes folder where all my music is at? >>>>>>>>>>>Also, all over the apple website, it is claiming that itunes 9.0 >>>>>>>>>>>is fully accessibale. They say to use window eyes that is not >>>>>>>>>>>much different from Jaws. >>>>>>>>>>>So, if apple is claiming it's accessible then how come the >>>>>>>>>>>itunes store isn't accessible. I mean they are saying on there >>>>>>>>>>>website that the store is easier designed for the visually >>>>>>>>>>>impaired. Is it just that we don't know how to use the store? >>>>>>>>>>>I mean if they are claiming itunes 9 is accessible then it >>>>>>>>>>>should be. I really don't wanna switch back unless I have to. >>>>>>>>>>>Sarah A. > >>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" >>>>>>>>>>><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>To: <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM >>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>>>>>>Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" >>>>>>>>>>>>file to your clipboard and put it somewhere. Then when you do >>>>>>>>>>>>manage to get the older iTunes installed, paste it over the >>>>>>>>>>>>existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it will create...unless your >>>>>>>>>>>>library is already there in iTunes first. > >>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>>>>Sarah anson >>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > >>>>>>>>>>>>I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the >>>>>>>>>>>>version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you >>>>>>>>>>>>like maybe five mins to sign up. >>>>>>>>>>>>How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I >>>>>>>>>>>>uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete >>>>>>>>>>>>my library? >>>>>>>>>>>>Sarah A. > >>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Marang" >>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>To: <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having >>>>>>>>>>>>>difficulty too. So I decided to revert to a version known to >>>>>>>>>>>>>work. At least until I learned how to get around in iTunes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>With a little searching, I found the following official Apple >>>>>>>>>>>>>download link for iTunes 8.2.1: >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with >>>>>>>>>>>>>version 9! >>>>>>>>>>>>>What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>Is copy and paste illegal? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Don Marang > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" >>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>would try looking for an iTunes version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>a website like www.oldversion.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Holger Fiallo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws >>>>>>>>>>>>>>do not know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>probably. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kind Regard > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Holger Fiallo > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "kim kelly" >>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And how is it used and also downloaded. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim Kelly > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah anson" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like girls she's got a boyfriend now." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you know the name of the album type the album name "Love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drunk" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Press >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>enter. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ctrl+end > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hear it say "buy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>am assuming then you press > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the whole album. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just using that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sarah A. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi everyone, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a new version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this and had any success, particularly in the iTunes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Store? I did update and now I'm trying to figure out how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to use the thing. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Michael > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >>>>>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > >>>>>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > >>>>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > >>>>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > >>>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > >>>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > >>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > >>> ________________________________ > >>> avast! 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