Derick,
that 'little detail' cannot be physically (or 'tactually') known at the
time, due to non-proportional spacing, font sizes and font point sizes,
whether bolding or underlining or italics are being used, until the
centered heading or text has been completed. You still have the
'template' of how this was formerly done, so use that as a frame of
reference or guide and trust that it, too, solves the foreseeable
problems. The printed characters are smaller than theyr former
typewritten equivalents, but the non-proportional spacing negates that
to some degree, at least in my understanding of it (which may, of
course, be flawed!) There are also margin settings in text editors and
in our word-processing programs. And for 'typing' in general now, in the
JAWS - application and/or default - Configuration manager (Set Options
Text Processing dialogue), JAWS has four Indicate newLines When:
checkboxes that may be used.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DERICK GREEFF" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS
Hi Flor
Now you see that is exactly what I meant by "getting more
complicated".
In the early days of learning typing on a manual typewriter (giving
away my
age) we used to do it that way. My main problem now is where the
cursor is
standing once text has been centred. It says the number of the column
as
"one" although it is somewhere in the line. It is this position I
would like
to determine. I've tried all the commands provided for making sure
that it
is indeed centred (it all works like a charm) but knowing on what
column in
the line the first letter of the centred text is is still a mystery to
me.
So, in fear of the moderator closing this subject I should rather just
believe that it is centred according to all the JAWS commands telling
me so
and forget what the column number in that line is where the centred
text
starts or stops.
I think we are so spoilt with JAWS allowing us to know every little
detail
on the screen that it is difficult for me to accept that this one I
will not
know.
Thanks again to all the listers who have given their input; it is
appreciated indeed!!!
DERICK
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Flor
Lynch
Sent: 16 October 2010 12:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS
It gets more complicated still when you include font size, and
non-proportionate fonts, which are standard, making such points less
relevant. It'll all come out fine in the printout - or, visually, the
Print Preview.
So, for a verbal or surface understanding, let's use a typewriter and
insert a sheet of A4 paper where a full line might be 60 or 65
characters in width (depending on margin settings, particularly the
right margin), and subtract the number of characters in the centred
text
from 65 and then divide the remainder by two, allowing for one more
space to the right if the centred text has an odd or even number of
characters - depending on what the margin settings are. thus, where
the
right margin was half-an-inch (5 spaces), the left margin 1 inch (10
spaces), you have 65 spaces (or 6.5 inches) width to play with on an
A4
standard sheet of paper. If the centred text is 20 characters, it will
start from a position 22 spaces in from the left margin. (this is how
we
used to do things.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "DERICK GREEFF" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS
So "Thus Column 1 tells you only that you are on the first column
of
text,
not your position in the actual line." But how do I then determine
where
this text is situated in a particular line in the indicator only
tells
me
that I'm on the first column of the text; I thought this was going to
be
simple but it gets more complicated!!!
DERICK
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: 14 October 2010 03:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Centering text and JAWS
Just as a blank line in a document is not a line filled with blanks,
centered text is not blanks plus text plus blanks. A line space
indicator is a single character, and a centering indicator is
likewise a single character. Thus Column 1 tells you only that you
are on the first column of text, not your position in the actual
line.
Stinks, doesn't it?
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