I get that little sound and jaws says about the notification bar here at least. David Ferrin [email protected] I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Justice" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] stay away from IE 9!
In regard to the message sent along for Explorer 9, I have experienced somewhat of a learning curve with regard to some of the security options. Other than that however, I find very little difference between the operation of Explorer 9 and its predecessor, Explorer 8. However, I do find it to be much less cluttered at the top of the page. The only thing I do miss is that little notice you receive with Explorer 8, notifying you that you need to change focus to the Information Bar to confirm a download. Since I've been using 9, I haven't had that message come up so I'm not sure if it's still there or not. I've been all over the place with 9 now and I was concerned since some people were definitely having trouble with it. I use a 32 bit laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium and a 64 bit desktop with Windows 7 Professional. I have to admit, it's quite different from 8 but it has never crashed, nor have I found a situation I couldn't work my way out of. If anyone is aware of some issues regarding accessibility and this new browser, I'd appreciate it if they would post them here. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary PERSONAL E-MAIL: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 6:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] stay away from IE 9! It works fine for me. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Hecker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] stay away from IE 9! The blank page problem they mention occurs even with the latest build of Jaws but can be resolved with unloading and restarting it. On 6/4/2011 4:17 PM, Alan Dicey wrote: > Dear Friends,Just got this in, and wanted folks to see it. > Here is a rather disquieting article about the accessibility, and lack > of it, for some users of Internet Explorer 9. I copied the page and > pasted it below, or you can go to: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/ff959805 > Best Regards, > Alan > Miami, Florida > > > Release Notes for Internet Explorer 9 Release Notes for Internet > Explorer 9 > Unless otherwise noted, all issues listed below apply to > Internet Explorer 9 on every supported operating system. > > Internet Explorer Developer Release Notes > Changes to the Internet Explorer Platform for web developers > are documented in the Platform Preview Release Notes. Reference those > notes for information on available features and known issues in HTML5, > JavaScript, CSS3, and more. > > Table of Contents > System Requirements > Known Installation Issues > Graphics > User Interface > Compatibility Issues with Websites > Compatibility Issues with Programs& Add-ons > Accessibility Considerations > Site Mode and Pinning > Changes in JavaScript Support in Internet Explorer 9 > Known Issues in F12 Developer Tools > Additional Information > > System Requirements > Computer/Processor > Computer with a 1 gigahertz (GHz) 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) > processor. > > Operating System > a.. Windows Vista 32-bit with Service Pack 2 (SP 2) or higher > b.. Windows Vista 64-bit with Service Pack 2 (SP 2) or higher > c.. Windows 7 32-bit RTM or higher > d.. Windows 7 64-bit RTM or higher > e.. Windows Server 2008 32-bit with Service Pack 2 (SP 2) or > higher > f.. Windows Server 2008 64-bit with Service Pack 2 (SP 2) or > higher > g.. Windows Server 2008 R2 64-bit > Memory > a.. Windows Vista 32-bit - 512 megabytes (MB) > b.. Windows Vista 64-bit - 512 MB > c.. Windows 7 32-bit - 512 MB > d.. Windows 7 64-bit - 512 MB > e.. Windows Server 2008 32-bit - 512MB > f.. Windows Server 2008 64-bit - 512MB > g.. Windows Server 2008 R2 64-bit - 512MB > Hard Drive Space > a.. Windows Vista 32-bit - 70 MB > b.. Windows Vista 64-bit - 120 MB > c.. Windows 7 32-bit - 70 MB > d.. Windows 7 64-bit - 120 MB > e.. Windows Server 2008 32-bit - 150 MB > f.. Windows Server 2008 64-bit - 200 MB > g.. Windows Server 2008 R2 64-bit - 200 MB > Drive > CD-ROM drive (if installation is done from a CD-ROM) > > Display > Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution monitor with 256 colors. > > Peripherals > Modem or Internet connection; Microsoft Mouse, Microsoft > IntelliMouse, or compatible pointing device. > > Known Installation Issues > a.. On Windows Server 2008, you will need to enable the > Desktop Experience feature prior to installing Internet Explorer 9 > prerequisite KB2117917. Without enabling Desktop Experience, Internet > Explorer 9 will not have HTML5 video and audio playback support. > For more information, see the following articles in the > Microsoft Knowledge Base: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2117917 > b.. On Windows Server 2008 R2, in order to have HTML5 video > and audio playback support in Internet Explorer 9, you will need to > enable the Desktop Experience feature prior to installing Internet > Explorer 9 prerequisite KB2454826 and KB2483177. Without KB2454826 and > KB2483177, Internet Explorer 9 will not have HTML5 video and audio playback support. > For more information, see the following articles in the > Microsoft Knowledge Base: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2454826 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2483177 > c.. Internet Explorer 9 installs as an update to Windows > Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2 and Windows Server 2008. > d.. Follow these steps to uninstall Internet Explorer 9: > 1.. Close all programs > 2.. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click > Programs and Features. > 3.. Click View Installed Updates, click Windows Internet > Explorer 9, and then click Uninstall. > e.. The Windows 7 N and KN Editions do not contain media > related technologies such as video playback. IE9 is designed to > support HTML5 video playback functionality which is only supported in > Windows versions that contain media related technologies. Therefore, > on Windows 7 N and KN Editions, Internet Explorer 9 will not be able > to install prerequisite > KB2454826 or KB2483177 unless the Windows Media Feature Pack (KB > 968211) is installed, resulting in no HTML5 video playback. In order > to enable > HTML5 video playback support on a Windows 7 N or KN, install KB986211 > and > KB2483177 before installing Internet Explorer 9. > f.. For Windows 7 32-bit and 64-bit, Internet Explorer 9 will > not be able to install prerequisite KB2454826 if the Media Features > are turned off, resulting in no HTML5 video playback. To enable HTML5 > video playback support, go to Programs in Control Panel and select > Turn Windows features on or off. In this dialog, enable Media Features > before installing Internet Explorer 9. > For more information, see the following article in the > Microsoft Knowledge Base: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2454826 > Graphics > Using Software Renderring: > In certain rare cases, Internet Explorer 9 may crash on startup > or have performance or fidelity problems when drawing webpage content. > For example, you might see webpages scrolling slowly or that some page > elements are not drawn correctly. This is a known issue with some > graphics cards, and is being addressed in a future update. To work > around this issue, follow these steps: > > 1.. Click Start, and then click Control Panel. > 2.. In Control Panel, click the "Advanced" tab, and click > 'Use software rendering instead of GPU rendering." > 3.. Click OK > Hyper-V and Windows Server 2008 R2 > When used on machines with the Hyper-V role installed, Internet > Explorer 9 will only be able to use a supported GPU for rendering if > Service Pack 1 is installed, and the processor supports SLAT. > > HTML5 Media Playback and Windows N-SKU > On Windows N-SKU machines, please install the Media Restore > pack to enable media playback. > > Running Internet Explorer 9 in a VMware virtual machine > Internet Explorer 9 always uses software rendering in a VMWare > virtual machine. This is due to a code bug in Internet Explorer > introduced by recent changes in the rendering engine. The Internet > Explorer team will be addressing this in a future update. > > Printing to OneNote 2007 > Due to an issue in OneNote 2007, some pages may not print > correctly to the OneNote 2007 printer. Please use OneNote 2010 or the > XPS2OneNote tool. > > Printer Spool File Sizes > In certain cases, Internet Explorer 9 will create spool files > that are larger than Internet Explorer 8 spool files when printing the > same content. This issue will be corrected in a later update. > > User Interface > Notifications: > The Notification bar appears on every page. > Currently, a "popup was blocked" bar appears on every page on > many sites. Since the bar overlays content on the page, you need to > dismiss the bar on every page to read page content. > > Download Manager: > Your Download Experience in Internet Explorer 9 > The download experience has changed in Internet Explorer 9. > Instead of the dialog box which took focus away from the webpage, > Internet Explorer 9 uses the Notification bar. The Notification bar > appears at the bottom of the page and does not change the current > focus point. When you click on a link that starts a download, you can > press Alt+N to put focus in the Notification bar and then use the > Run/Open, Save or Cancel buttons to interact with your download. > > Compatibility Issues with Websites > Certain websites won't display as they did with Internet > Explorer 8. As a workaround, use the Compatibility View button in the > address bar to resolve this issue. > > Compatibility Issues with Programs& Add-ons > Windows Live Mail Compatibility > Windows Live Mail, versions 15.4 and above, stops responding or > fails to start if you have Intel integrated graphics driver > Igdkmd32.sys > (32-bit) / Igdkmd64.sys (64-bit) versions 8.15.10.2104 through > 8.15.10.2141. These drivers have been found to cause compatibility > issues with certain applications that use Direct2D (D2D). For example, > if you have one of these drivers, Windows Live Mail could crash after > update KB2454826, a prerequisite update for Internet Explorer 9, has > been installed. > For more information, see the following article in the > Microsoft Knowledge Base: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2505524 > > Java IE Plug-In Compatibility > Users with version 6, update 22 of the Java IE plugin installed > will experience crashes with IE9 when they visit webpages that are > rendered in IE9 mode by default and contain applets that need to > instantiate the plug-in. This is due to a code bug in the Java plug-in > that was exposed by recent changes in the IE9 rendering engine. > > The Java team is aware of this issue and is working on > addressing it in future updates of the Java IE plug-in. > > To workaround this issue: > Viewing these webpages in Compatibility View fixes the problem. > Compatibility View forces IE to render the webpage in IE8 mode which > does not contain the IE9 changes to the rendering engine. > For more information, see the following article in the > Microsoft Knowledge Base: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2506617 > > Accessibility Considerations > At this time Internet Explorer 9 is not fully functional with > older versions of some Assistive Technology. If you use Assistive > Technology, we recommend that you check with your specific provider to > determine if it is compatible with Internet Explorer 9. JAWS > 12.0.1158, released in April > 2011 and Window Eyes 7.5, released in March 2011 are compatible with > Internet Explorer 9. > > Web pages appear blank when using screen review commands such > as the JAWS cursor or Window-Eyes Mouse Pointer. > This is caused by the use Direct2D for rendering. Upgrading to > JAWS > 12.0.1158 and Window Eyes 7.5 resolves this issue. > > Font Smoothing from screen magnifiers such as ZoomText no > longer works in Internet Explorer 9. > Magnification still works, but font smoothing does not. There > is no workaround for this issue. > > Text in edit boxes is unable to be edited when using > Window-Eyes screen reader. > This is caused by the use of Direct2D for rendering. Upgrading > to Window Eyes version 7.5 resolves this issue. > > Problems reading web content using JAWS Virtual PC mode. > When reading web content using JAWS Virtual PC mode in JAWS 11, > there are two issues you might notice. One issue is that some webpage > content and some form controls such as radio buttons or check boxes > are missing. The other issue you might notice is multiple blank lines > and space characters when reading webpages. These two issues are > resolved in the latest JAWS 12 release. Using Compatibility View will > resolve this issue in JAWS 11. To turn on Compatibility View, press > Alt+D and tab to the Compatibility View button, or press Alt+T, v from > the Internet Explorer menus. > > Notification Bar popups are not read by all Assistive > Technology software. > The new Internet Explorer 9 Notification bar replaces the > Internet Explorer 8 Information Bar. Many notifications are available > in the notification bar including downloads, blocked popups, password > manager, and add-on notifications. Not all Assistive Technology are > able to detect that a notification bar is present, or read the bar if > focus is placed in it. Please check with your specific provider to > determine if it is compatible with Internet Explorer 9. > > As a partial workaround, you can turn on Internet Explorer > sounds to get notified that a notification bar is present (Tools Menu > - Internet Options - Advanced - check Play System sounds). To place > focus in the notification bar please press Alt+N. > > Internet Explorer Sounds are off by Default > Sounds have been turned off in Internet Explorer 9. You can > turn them back on by going to Tools Menu - Internet Options - Advanced > - check Play System sounds. > > Hotkey changes > A few hotkeys have changed in Internet Explorer 9: > > a.. Ctrl+J now will open the Internet Explorer download > manager instead of opening feeds. You can open feeds in Internet > Explorer 9 with > Ctrl+G. > b.. Ctrl+E now places focus in the address bar because the > search box has been combined with the address bar. When you press > Ctrl+E, focus is placed in the address bar with a question mark and > space already populated for you. You can search from the Internet > Explorer 9 address bar the same way you searched from the Internet Explorer 8 search box. > Site Mode and Pinning > The first time a user pins a site InPrivate, the icon that is > displayed on the taskbar is the default IE icon. The second time the > user launches the pinned site, the icon will be fixed. > > After a site has been pinned InPrivate, if the site makes any > dynamic changes to their Custom Jump List, all Tasks are automatically > removed from the Jump List when the InPrivate session closes. The next > time the user launches the pinned site, the original tasks will be > populated. > > In some cases, the favicon is lost when a site is pinned InPrivate. > To resolve this problem, launch the site again and the favicon will be > restored. > > Changes in JavaScript Support in Internet Explorer 9 > The Chakra JavaScript engine provides support for the > ECMAScript Fifth Edition standard and improved script performance. As > a result of these changes, and due to our intent to support the same > script and same markup across browsers, certain JavaScript features > supported in Internet Explorer 8 behave differently in IE9's > compatibility modes or are not supported by Internet Explorer 9 > standards mode. For a list of feature changes and guidance on how to > update your web sites to support Internet Explorer 9 Standards mode, > see the IE9 Compatibility Cookbook and the blog post Enhanced Scripting in IE9: ECMAScript 5 Support and More. > > Known Issues in F12 Developer Tools > a.. After using the script debugger, restart Internet > Explorer to restore JavaScript performance. > b.. The Network Inspector does not indicate if the server has > provided compressed files. > c.. If multiple tabs are running in same process, Network > Inspector will show results from all tabs. > d.. Inline scripts in SVG and XML documents will be displayed > as separate script blocks. We recommend you use script references instead. > Additional Information > IE Blog - A great resource to find and understand new and > important Internet Explorer 9 information. > > MSConnect - A place to file bugs for Internet Explorer 9. > > Developer Forums - A place to discuss and read about Internet > Explorer issues. > > Developer Guide - A great guide for web developers to get started. > Advertisement > > > > > > > C 2011 Microsoft. All rights reserved.Terms of Use | Trademarks | For > answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
