Hello users,

I would like to point out that while this new JAWS OCR feature will be useful 
for quick access to a file that is an image, the real power is the fact that 
when you are working in an app or on a page, where graphics are used in places 
where interaction is required, JAWS (the JAWS Cursor) is able to now navigate 
to the exact location of the text that has been OCR'd and you can now click in 
that location. In the coming days and weeks, you will continue to hear about 
this from users as they continue to experiment with apps and web locations 
where they have struggled before.

Regards,
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RE2: OCR on graphical text using OneNote

Hello tom,

OneNote was changed a lot in Office 2010.  It uses a ribbon interface.  It 
seems to be somewhat accessible but certainly not entirely.  A person can 
record audio or video notes, send the notes in Email including as PDF files, 
quickly interface with Outlook tasks and meetings, and do lots of other 
functions.  I haven't spent much time with it though as I don't find it adds a 
lot of value for me, and I can quickly do many of its functions with other 
programs just as well.  At work, I have used the OCR to get text from image 
type files and that has been beneficial for me.

Take care. 

Brian Lee
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:49 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RE2: OCR on graphical text using OneNote

Hi Brian,  can you do much else with one note?  I tried using one note 2003 but 
couldn't use it workably nor could I find any one that was able to use it.  

Regards
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: September 13, 2011 7:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RE2: OCR on graphical text using OneNote

Hello Prateek,

I have only used single-paged PDF files.  JAWS doesn't recognize the text at 
all and just says "alert, empty document."  For those image files, I have 
simply used copy and paste between Adobe Reader and OneNote.  However, in the 
edit menu of Adobe Reader 10.1 there is a choice to copy the file.  If you copy 
the file instead of choosing the regular copy command, you can paste it in 
OneNote and then copy the text from the image.  Copying the file should work 
for multi-paged documents.  Results will vary according to the quality of the 
input.  

Take care.  

Brian Lee
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dujari, Prateek
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] RE2: OCR on graphical text using onenote

Hello.

so if I have a PDF file, one of those which is all text but where the text is 
pasted as a graphic such that OCR software like Nuance's PDF converter 
professional and others are in effective:
then can I open the inaccessible PDF file in Adobe, then hit CTRL A to 
presumably select all pages in the open Pdf file, then CTRL C to copy  and then 
paste it using CTRL V in onenote and follow the couple of steps in onenote as 
described below to make all that graphical text readable by the PC cursor of 
JAWS? Really?



Prateek

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13

Hello,

I have not yet heard the podcast from Freedom Scientific, but I want to point 
out to people using Office 2010 with OneNote in the suite that you can do OCR 
on image files using that program.  You can extract text from .tif, .jpg, .pdf, 
etc.  If you open a .TIF file that contains text (in Windows Photo viewer for 
example), simply copy the text to the clipboard.  Open OneNote using Windows 
key with N.  Paste the contents of the clipboard.  If you get a pop up menu 
choose to open the file as a print out so you can add notes.  When the image is 
pasted arrow up or down to the line that says something like "machine generated 
text" and use application key.  Arrow down to the menu choice for copying text 
from image and press enter key.  You can then open Word and paste the text.  It 
does a pretty good job.

Take care.  

Brian Lee
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13

Hi,
I agree with you about the OCR.
In Israel, I use ABBYY FineReader 11 professional edition because the OCR is 
much better and I don't think that omnipage has Hebrew support.
So, JAWS 13 will not have Hebrew OCR but Baum uses FineReader and has Hebrew.
But, because I don't like Baum and I love FS, I will be stuck for this feature!

Adi.



Regards,

Adi.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13

The OCR thing is way cool. Especially when Errick read the DVD main menu with 
it. Think about it. If JFW 13 when  it does work with Win 8 doesn't hook like 
NVDA and System Access do, it'll be So much easyer still to watch a DVD on your 
own. Pluss you'll be using WMP which is already easy to use some what as it is. 
This will only make it all the more easier. Assuming JAWS works with out 
hooking to the Video that is. 
See because since it does that WMP thinks JAWS wants to coppy the disk so 
that's why one gets that diolauge about not being able to run the analogue 
coppy protection thing. In short, If JAWS doesn't hook to the video in Win 8, 
and if the OCR can scan DVD menus like it did for Erick, watching movies will 
be golden on the PC.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of soner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13

OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum 
of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra.
Should Baum sue Freedom then?
:)
Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, 
a "game changer" in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about 
the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in 
the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the 
world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the 
pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today.
So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin...
P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily 
be found with a simple Google search.

Regards

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