These are solid machines. I am writing using one right now. They are
business machines, and such do not have the fastest components, most
powerful video, etc. They are great for networking and standard business
applications. And, they are like a Timex watch. They just keep ticking.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] If you don't mind a pro version, there are often
good deals on ebay for Dell Optiplexes with windows 7.


        

On 10/2/2013 11:51, David Ferrin wrote:
> You can find 7 systems online at places like:
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com
>
> and possibly others like new egg although I don't know about that 
> second place as I have never dealt with them in the past. Tiger direct

> has complete systems and also software for upgrading systems yourself 
> which is what I did here.
>
> Windows 7 is scheduled to be around for another 6 or 7 years according

> to my information so that is my plan at this time.
> David Ferrin
> Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
> ones that mind don't matter.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Trish
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws15 is must required for XP users?
>
> can window's 7 still be had to go that route?
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: David Ferrin
>    To: [email protected]
>    Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:43 AM
>    Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws15 is must required for XP users?
>
>
>    The final update for Windows XP is scheduled for exactly 6 months 
> from next
>    Tuesday in case anybody has forgotten.
>
>    I agree with Mr. Damery so far as people should start looking in to
>    upgrading their respective systems. Personally I have upgraded all
of mine
>    to Windows 7 as 8 doesn't present anything of interest to me, I'm 
> not saying
>    nobody should upgrade to 8, it's just not on my horizon at this
time,
>    because 7 is serving my needs just fine.
>    David Ferrin
>    A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from
>    a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:[email protected]] On
>    Behalf Of Eric Damery
>    Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:16 AM
>    To: [email protected]
>    Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws15 is must required for XP users?
>
>    Actually, in addition the bug fixes and new Windows 8 support
including
>    touch screens, the following list of features that were added also 
> apply to
>    Windows XP. I would strongly suggest you consider looking at a new 
> computer
>    in the coming months. Microsoft is going to stop support of XP 
> shortly which
>    could lead to significant problems with cyber attacks if you remain
>    connected to the internet in the future with XP.
>
>    Regards,
>    Eric Damery
>
>    Vocalizer Expressive Synthesizer
>    JAWS 15 supports Vocalizer Expressive voices from Nuance
Communications.
>    These new voices work exclusively with JAWS. Vocalizer Expressive
offers
>    many benefits including pitch control, so you can more easily 
> identify upper
>    case characters, improved performance, especially in the areas of
latency
>    and speech quality, as well as support for a wide variety of
languages.
>
>    To download these voices, go to the Vocalizer Expressive Voices Web
page.
>    Each voice can be downloaded as high premium or premium. The high
premium
>    voices are large files, but offer the highest quality speech. The
premium
>    voices offer very good speech quality and a smaller file size. Both
high
>    premium and premium versions of a voice can be installed on the
same
>    computer so they can be compared. After installing a voice, a
Vocalizer
>    Expressive profile will be added to the list of JAWS voice
profiles.
>
>    New FSReader 3 with HTML Support
>    A new version of FSReader, Freedom Scientific's software DAISY
(Digital
>    Accessible Information System) book reader, is included with JAWS
15. In
>    FSReader 3, the text area of the book is now in HTML format, which 
> means you
>    can navigate using the same techniques that you use on the Web. You

> can use
>    navigation quick keys such as H to move by heading or P to move by
>    paragraph. You can also use the JAWS list of links, list of
headings, and
>    more.
>
>    To learn more about using FSReader 3 to access DAISY content, refer
to the
>    FSReader Getting Started book which can be accessed by pressing F1 
> while in
>    FSReader.
>
>    Download Freedom Scientific Training Materials Using FSReader You
will now
>    download and install Freedom Scientific training DAISY books
directly
>    through FSReader 3. Training materials will no longer be listed in 
> the JAWS
>    Check for Updates dialog box.
>
>    To access Freedom Scientific training DAISY books, do the
following:
>
>    1.Start FSReader 3.
>    2.Press ALT+F to open the File menu and choose Open JAWS Training
Table of
>    Contents to open the table of contents book.
>    3.Each available DAISY book is identified as a link. Navigate to
the book
>    you want to open and press ENTER. If the selected book has not yet
been
>    installed on your computer, FSReader will automatically download 
> and install
>    the book and then open it. Otherwise, the selected book is opened.
>    New Speech History for Speech-only Users For years, braille users 
> have had a
>    mode where the braille display would show the exact information
spoken by
>    the speech synthesizer. You can also pan the braille display back 
> to review
>    the last 50 spoken items. The New Speech History feature in JAWS 15

> extends
>    this functionality to users who rely on speech more than braille.
>
>    If you miss one or more messages spoken by JAWS, you can press
>    INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by H to open a Results Viewer window 
> containing up
>    to the last 50 announcements spoken by the synthesizer. When the
Speech
>    History window opens, you are placed on the line containing the 
> most recent
>    announcement. To clear the history, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed
by
>    SHIFT+H. The history is also cleared when you lock the computer or
>    completely log off. If you do not want JAWS to maintain a speech
history,
>    clear the Enable Speech History check box in Settings Center.
>
>    The braille mode, previously called Speech History, has been
renamed to
>    Speech Output in order to avoid confusion.
>
>    Updated Skype Support
>    JAWS 15 now offers support for the latest version of Skype. Using 
> Skype, you
>    can make free voice and video calls as well as send and receive
instant
>    messages with other users across the Internet. If you are running a

> version
>    of Skype earlier than 6.3, you should update to the most recent
version to
>    take full advantage of JAWS support for Skype.
>
>    For best results using Skype with JAWS, it is recommended that you 
> switch to
>    Compact View, which displays your Contact list in the main window,
while
>    conversations are displayed in their own separate windows. You can 
> then use
>    ALT+TAB or the Window List dialog box (INSERT+F10) to move between
>    conversation windows and the Skype main window. To switch to
Compact View,
>    press ALT+V to open the View menu, press UP ARROW to Compact view, 
> and press
>    ENTER.
>
>    Some other key enhancements include:
>
>    *When Skype alerts you to an incoming call, JAWS automatically
speaks the
>    text of the notification regardless of what application you are
currently
>    using. The notification is also shown on the braille display as a
flash
>    message.
>    *If you are in a chat window typing messages back and forth with
another
>    Skype user, JAWS automatically announces incoming messages as they
are
>    received. Incoming messages are also shown on the braille display 
> as a flash
>    message. If you are involved in multiple conversations and you are 
> using the
>    Compact View, which opens each conversation in a separate window, 
> JAWS will
>    also read incoming messages from other conversations in the
background.
>    *Pressing CTRL in conjunction with number 1 through 0 on the number

> row will
>    read the last 10 items in the history list with CTRL+1 being the
most
>    recent. Pressing these keystrokes twice quickly will display the
>    corresponding message in the Virtual Viewer.
>    *Pressing CTRL+SHIFT+E will move focus to the chat entry field if
the
>    currently open Skype window contains one.
>    *Pressing CTRL+WINDOWS Key in conjunction with number 1 through 5
on the
>    number row will let you specify up to 5 conversation windows you 
> can quickly
>    switch to by pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by number 1 through
5.
>    *Pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+R will repeat the
current
>    background notification, such as who is calling or an incoming
message.
>    For more information on using JAWS with Skype, refer to the Skype
help
>    topic.
>
>    Third-party Braille Display Drivers now Included in JAWS
Installation For
>    the past several years, Freedom Scientific has worked closely with
braille
>    display manufacturers to help them create drivers that enable their

> displays
>    to take advantage of all of the latest braille support offered by
JAWS.
> This
>    includes BrailleIn and the ability to enter text into applications 
> directly
>    from the braille display's Perkins-style keyboard. Once Freedom
Scientific
>    had verified and digitally signed a driver, users of third-party
braille
>    displays would need to download the JAWS driver from the 
> manufacturer's Web
>    site in order to use it.
>
>    Beginning with JAWS 15, several third-party braille display drivers

> will now
>    be automatically installed with JAWS and will be available for
adding
>    through the Synthesizer and Braille Manager as soon as the JAWS 
> installation
>    is complete. Users will no longer have to download and install a
separate
>    JAWS driver for their display from a different Web site.
>
>    The latest braille display drivers from the following manufacturers

> are now
>    included with JAWS:
>
>    *American Printing House for the Blind
>    *BAUM Retec AG
>    *Handy Tech
>    *HIMS
>    *HumanWare
>    *Optelec Tieman Group (Only Alva BC-640 at this time) *Papenmeier
>    Note: Certain braille displays may require you to download a
separate
>    Windows driver from the Manufacturer's Web site before they can be
used.
>
>    Auto Detection of Braille Displays
>    If you establish a USB or Bluetooth connection with your braille
display,
>    JAWS now immediately detects and begins using the display without
the need
>    to first close and restart JAWS. This is especially useful if you
use JAWS
>    in a school or training environment where multiple braille displays
may be
>    used with the same computer. For instance, if you are using a Focus

> 40 Blue
>    over a Bluetooth connection and you establish a USB connection with

> another
>    display, JAWS will begin using the braille display that is
connected over
>    USB. If you then disconnect the USB display and power on the Focus 
> 40 Blue,
>    JAWS will switch back to the Bluetooth connection with the Focus
Blue.
>
>    More Braille Options Added to Startup Wizard The JAWS Startup
Wizard
>    consists of a series of pages that let you quickly configure some
of the
>    more commonly used JAWS settings without the need to go through
several
>    menus and managers to locate them. In JAWS 15, the Braille page of
the
>    Startup Wizard has been expanded to include more common braille
settings
>    that users tend to configure the most when they first install JAWS.
In
>    addition to contracted braille options and flash messages, you can 
> now also
>    set the braille mode (Structured, Line, or Speech Output), enable 
> or disable
>    word wrap, reverse the panning buttons on your display, select the 
> placement
>    of your display's status cells, or set the firmness of the braille
dots on
>    your Focus or PAC Mate Portable Braille Display. In addition, if
you read
>    braille in more than one language, you can specify the primary
language
>    table.
>
>    Instant Switching Between Braille Tables If you regularly access 
> information
>    in other languages using your braille display, JAWS now allows you
to
>    configure preferred braille tables that you can switch between
on-the-fly
>    using Quick Settings or a convenient keystroke.
>
>    To set preferred tables, open the Settings Center, expand the 
> Braille group,
>    expand the Advanced group, and then choose Braille Tables. A dialog
box
>    opens listing all of the braille tables included with JAWS. You can
choose
>    the tables you want to set as preferred tables as well as set one
of your
>    preferred tables as the primary table. For instance, you may want 
> to switch
>    between English, Spanish, and French, but have English as your
primary
>    table.
>
>    Once you have set your preferred braille tables, you can open Quick

> Settings
>    from any application and use the new Preferred Translation Table
option,
>    located under the Braille Options group, to cycle between your
preferred
>    tables. You can also press DOTS 2-3-4-5-7 CHORD from the
Perkins-style
>    keyboard on your braille display to quickly switch between 
> preferred braille
>    tables.
>
>    Braille Structured Mode Improvements
>    When using JAWS with a refreshable braille display, Structured Mode
gives
>    you descriptive information about the current dialog box and the
current
>    selected control. Previously, the only way to change how Structured
Mode
>    presented information was to select Define Structured Mode in
Settings
>    Center to open a dialog box where you could individually configure
each
>    control type, for instance, check boxes and buttons.
>
>    JAWS 15 makes the process of configuring Structured Mode much
easier by
>    adding a new Structured Mode group under the Braille group in
Settings
>    Center that contains options for configuring how the structured
line is
>    displayed so you do not have to modify each individual control. In 
> addition,
>    when displaying a structured line, JAWS will align the braille
display to
>    show the most relevant information, such as a prompt, to eliminate 
> the need
>    to pan the display in order to locate this information.
>
>    To access the new Structured Mode settings, Open Settings Center
>    (INSERT+F2), expand the Braille group, and then select the
Structured Mode
>    group. The following options are now available:
>
>    *Open the Include Optional Components group to configure what
control info
>    is shown on the braille display. This includes, the control type 
> and whether
>    it will be displayed in the status cells or not, level and
position,
>    hotkeys, hints, dialog box title information, dialog box
descriptive text,
>    and control group info.
>    *Select or clear the Align to Structured Segment option to 
> determine if JAWS
>    will align the display to the most appropriate Structured Mode 
> segment when
>    a control gains focus.
>    *Select or clear the Reverse Order of Structured Data to change how
the
>    structured line is shown on the braille display. When selected, the

> control
>    info is shown first, followed by the group, and then the dialog box
>    information.
>    *Select Advanced to open the Control Type Options dialog box where
you can
>    modify symbols used to represent controls on your braille display 
> as well as
>    the symbols used to represent the states a control can be in - such
as
>    selected or cleared for a check box.
>    By default, the control type, such as chk for check box and btn for

> button,
>    is shown in the status cells of the braille display. If you
encounter
>    multiple types that need to be shown in the status cells, the
symbols for
>    each individual type will be combined into a single symbol that 
> will fit in
>    the status area of the display. For example, if you encounter a
graphic
>    within a link, you would see ilnk. If the graphic was part of a
level 1
>    heading, you would see ih1. If a graphical link was part of a level
2
>    heading, you would see ilh2, if the display has four status cells,
or just
>    ilh if the display has three status cells.
>
>    For more information, see the Braille Display Modes help topic.
>
>    Changed Braille Symbols for Structured Mode The following braille
symbols
>    used to represent various control states in Structured Mode have
been
>    changed.
>
>    *A - is now used to indicate opened or expanded.
>    *A + is now used to indicate closed or collapsed.
>    *Disabled and Grayed are now represented by xx.
>    *Required is now represented by rq.
>    *Pressed is now represented by the = symbol.
>    *Graphics are now indicated by img.
>    Enhanced Table Reading in Braille
>    JAWS allows you to determine how much information is shown on your
>    refreshable braille display for tables in Word documents as well as
>    virtualized documents such as Web pages and e-mail messages. Using
the
>    settings in the Table Options group, located under the Braille 
> Options group
>    in Quick Settings, you can choose to display the current cell, 
> current row,
>    or current column. In JAWS 15, enhancements to these options have 
> been made
>    to make it even easier to access the contents of tables using
braille.
>
>    If JAWS is configured to display either the current row or current
column,
>    JAWS now displays the vertical bar symbol (dots 1-2-5-6) between
cells to
>    help indicate where one cell ends and the next begins.
>
>    If JAWS is configured to display either the current row or current
column,
>    JAWS now displays the vertical bar symbol (dots 1-2-5-6) between
cells to
>    help indicate where one cell ends and the next begins.
>
>    If the current row is being displayed, JAWS will now display the
current
>    column number before the cell where the cursor is located. In
addition, if
>    JAWS is configured to speak column headers, the header for the
current
>    column will also be shown in braille following the column number
and prior
>    to the cell containing the cursor.
>
>    Similarly, if the current column is being displayed, JAWS will now
display
>    the current row number before the cell where the cursor is located.
In
>    addition, if JAWS is configured to speak row headers, the header
for the
>    current row will also be shown in braille following the row number 
> and prior
>    to the cell containing the cursor.
>
>    Error Reporting
>    In order to more promptly respond to customer issues, the new JAWS
error
>    reporting feature will allow you to send information about any JAWS
errors
>    to Freedom Scientific over the Internet. If JAWS unexpectedly
closes, a
>    memory dump file, containing diagnostic information, is created in 
> the JAWS
>    user settings folder. If you also experience any issues where JAWS
appears
>    to still be running, but you have lost speech or braille, you can
press
>    INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 to manually close JAWS, terminate all related
>    processes, and create the memory dump file.
>
>    After the memory dump file has been created, JAWS will 
> automatically restart
>    and display a dialog box indicating that an error was detected and 
> will ask
>    if you want to send this information to Freedom Scientific. Choose 
> the Send
>    button to transmit the error report directly to Freedom Scientific.
JAWS
>    will display a message to indicate that the report was sent
successfully.
> If
>    there was a problem sending the report, for instance, you do not
have an
>    active Internet connection, you are asked if you want to try
sending it
>    again. Choose Yes or No. Choose Don't Send if you do not wish to
send the
>    error report to Freedom Scientific. Choosing to send any error 
> reports helps
>    Freedom Scientific to continue to improve JAWS.
>
>    The information transmitted to Freedom Scientific is limited to the
memory
>    dump file as well as generic information allowing Freedom
Scientific to
>    investigate the source of the issue, such as your product version
number,
>    the date and time the error occurred, number of times your system
has
>    experienced an error, and the error code related to the problem
that
>    occurred. The only information related to your specific environment

> that is
>    transmitted is your computer's MAC address to find trends on a
particular
>    system. However, there is no way for us to map MAC addresses to any
>    particular individual, and no personal identification information
is
>    transmitted.
>
>    In addition, you can choose from one of the following radio
buttons:
>
>    *Ask me if I want to send error reports to Freedom Scientific each
time:
>    Choosing this option will cause this dialog box to be displayed 
> each time an
>    error is detected. This is the default setting.
>    *Send all error reports to Freedom Scientific without asking: If 
> you choose
>    this option, future error reports are automatically sent to Freedom
>    Scientific without displaying a dialog box.
>    *Never send error reports to Freedom Scientific: If you choose this

> option,
>    any future error reports will not be sent to Freedom Scientific and

> you will
>    not be prompted to send an error report.
>    You can also configure this setting using the new Error Reporting 
> combo box,
>    located on the Miscellaneous page in Settings Center.
>
>    Navigation Quick Key Changes
>    The following Navigation Quick Key assignments have been changed to

> be more
>    consistent with the Navigation Quick Keys available when using the
Touch
>    Cursor:
>
>    *Next Radio Button: A
>    *Previous Radio Button: SHIFT+A
>    *List Radio Buttons: CTRL+INSERT+A
>    *Next Region: R
>    *Previous Region: SHIFT+R
>    *List Regions: CTRL+INSERT+R
>    *Move to the main region of a page: Q
>    *Next OnMouseOver: SEMICOLON
>    *Previous OnMouseOver: SHIFT+SEMICOLON
>    *List OnmouseOvers: CTRL+INSERT+SEMICOLON The scripts for moving to

> the next
>    or previous anchor and the next or previous block quote as well as
listing
>    anchors are still available, but are no longer assigned to
keystrokes. If
>    you still wish to use this functionality, you can assign new
keystrokes
>    through the Keyboard Manager.
>
>    Back to top from JAWS 15 Features
>
>
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:[email protected]] On
>    Behalf Of Chris Hill
>    Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:02 AM
>    To: [email protected]
>    Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws15 is must required for XP users?
>
>    Bug fixes.  Often that's the only way you will ever get them, no 
> matter what
>    the release highlights.  Some day you will upgrade, and you won't
save any
>    money by not keeping current.
>
>
>
>    On 10/2/2013 00:03, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi wrote:
>    > Hi friends. I am using j14 whith xp propessional. So how mutch
will
>    > help j15 for xp user in future? And j15 is specially dedicated
>    > forwindows8 users? And what are benifits cann we get mean xp
user, if
>    > we instal j15? Please discuss.
>    >
>
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