Hi Ed,

I don't know enough about navigating the ribbons to give a good explanation 
on using virtual ribbons or not but, I don't use the virtual ribbons & when 
I open Word 2010 I make sure that ribbons are maximized for much better 
navigation.  I just went to Word 2010, opened quick settings, checked the 
virtual ribbons checkbox & after saving my change I opened the context menu 
& the minimize / maximize option wasn't there.  I went back & unchecked 
virtual ribbons, saved the change, pressed the Alt key to highlight the 
ribbons, opened the context menu, & wellaw, the minimize / maximize option 
was there.  You would have to experiment with having the virtual ribbons on 
or off & see which way you prefer to navigate the ribbons.  You know 
different strokes for different folks.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Pinky
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms word learned my lesson


Hi Mike,
In your last email you asked if I had virtual ribbons unchecked?  Why would 
I want it unchecked.  Can you explain this in more detail.  I am trying to 
learn what would be the best way to use the ribbons.

Thanks for your help

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms word learned my lesson

Hi Ed,

I don't use Outlook 2010 or any version of Outlook so, I don't know if 
Outlook has menues like Word does in Office 2010.  Do you have the virtual 
ribbons unchecked in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V?
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Pinky
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms word learned my lesson


Mike,
I am using Outlook 2010 and I tried the steps you said below in your email
by using the shift+F10 and did not find minimized or maximized  Can you
please give these directions again.  For example when I hit the ALT I land
on home then I did the shift+F10 then arrow down and did not find what you
said should be there.

Any help would be appreciated.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 3:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms word learned my lesson

Hi Lenny,

Here's something you can try to make navigating the Office 2010 ribbons a
little easier but, make sure the virtual ribbons option is unchecked in
Word's Jaws options, Insert + V.

To navigate ribbons more efficiently the ribbons need to be maximized.  The
keystroke is, control + F1.  This keystroke is a toggle so, this keystroke
will maximize & minimize.  To check if the ribbons are minimized / maximized
do the following:
1. Press the, Alt key, to open the ribbons.
2. Open the context menu with either the application key or, shift + F10.
3. Arrow up or down to the, Minimize, option.  If, Minimize, is checked, the
ribbons are minimized  Pressing, enter, on this checkbox, will uncheck it &
close the context menu & your menues will now be maximized.

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lenny McHugh
To: JFW List
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:35 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms word learned my lesson


Well, I learned my lesson about using other programs to change views. When I
first installed office 2010 a few years ago there was a program that changed
the ribbons to work like word 2003. I can find no way to reverse it. I was
on with a Microsoft tech for about 3 hours and she could not fix it. She is
escalating the problem. She located the program and uninstalled it. It did
not correct the problem. did a repair on office 2010 with same unfavorable
results. And as  I did last night uninstalled office 2010 and re installed
it and the problem is still there. She did find a work around for me. To do
an insert in word I can use alt N instead of alt I. She will be getting back
to me in 48 to 72 hours. I will never again install something that changes
the way a program works.
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