Hi Mike, I totally understand where you are coming from & I'm sorry if I sounded like my rant was directed at you but, it was not! It's just so many factors can play into of what Jaws will report back to you, for instance, in these latest Windows operating systems screen resolution can play a big part in what you'll hear from window to window or, program to program & a lot of people may not have the confidence to play around with these kinds of settings to see what will work best for their situation. There are those that might not know the difference between Landscape & Portrait when making a screen resolution settings change & speaking from experience the Landscape / Portrait selection can make a world of difference by itself. You know where I'm coming from &, from reading your posts' I know you care & are willing to help! I think people like lists' like this one because they get an answer from someone that experienced the same problem & can relate to it, rather than someone saying, why don't you just Google it &, getting a bunch computer lingo that they may not understand from their search & will never get an understandable answer.....
Anyways, I enjoy reading your posts' & have learned a lot from them but, remembering is a whole nuther issue! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Boyd To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] malwarebytes 2.0315! Mike, Thanks for your reply, I agree with you 100%, and I do not expect everyone on this list to have the same degree of knowledge when it comes to computers and working with softwares that are at best, merely retrofitted to meet the needs of blind people. I want everyone to know, that I need just as much help with somethings as anyone else, and that I am always willing to lend a helping hand wherever I can. I first joined this list and a couple more similar ones to be able to learn some of the things that I did not understand, and it has been a great resource for me. But, I get the greatest reward from this and other lists by teaching someone else how to accomplish their goals. I post my email address at the bottom of every message that I write, and it is my hope that anyone needing help with something will contact me on or off list. I do not know it all, and if it is a subject that I am unfamiliar with, I will say so right up front, but will still try to head someone in the right direction to get their questions answered. If I do know the subject, then I will stick with the person to the very end to get them to where they feel like their inquiry has been answered. So, to everyone on the list, please do not hesitate to ask for my help with any questions that you might have, I promise that you will get no less than my honesty, and perhaps the answer that you were looking for. Best to all, Mike [email protected] [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike B. Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 6:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] malwarebytes 2.0315! Hi Mike & List Members, Please don't assume that people don't try! I tried very hard to make MWb Pro work for me but, no matter what keystrokes or individual keys I pressed I could not get Premium to take a schedule for a scan or updating. Also, I could not get it to accept my licensing info. I have 2 licenses available & it wouldn't take either 1. I emailed MWB support & I was doing exactly as they said but, no go! I worked on the program for several days, at least 2 hours per day, & just could not get to do what I needed it to do for me so, back to 1.75 I went. Please don't assume, whether it's me or anyone else, that because we have complained about its accessibility that we've expected something for nothing or that there was very little if any, effort put into trying to make this program work. The build I was working in was, 2.0.3.1025, & if 2.0315 is a newer release then I need to give it another go. Also, I've never had any problems with Vipre but, these list's are comprised of many people with varying levels of Jaws / computer skills but, with this list having somewhere around 700 members & at tops probbably around 10% that actually participate. Many people read the messages & learn a great deal but, are afraid to write the list because they feel embarrassed to ask questions that might be easy for you or I but, are afraid of replies that tell them they aren't trying hard enough or..... I get many such emails off list stating this very fact. I've said since becoming a member of this list that, The only stupid question, is the question that isn't asked, & long time members of this list can attest to the fact that I used to ask some of the most easiest of questions but, this was due to me not ever having any training & was trying to learn on my own. This list got me a long ways & I'll be forever grateful for it, & its members. If you have tips on navigating a program, please post them. A little shove in the right direction is a whole lot better than a..... Those list members that feel embarrassed to ask question, don't be. That's what this list is here for, help! I'm sorry for the rant but, AH, I feel better now. LOL Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Boyd To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] malwarebytes 2.0315! Gerald, Malware Bytes 2.0315 is the initial release that everyone is calling simply 2.03. When you open the program, and tab down to the Dashboard item, you can then left or right arrow through the different tabs, and then tab down in each tab to change your settings, schedule your scans, etc. Like the 2015 version of Vipre, we are not just saying that it is accessible to get other people to download and install it, these programs are accessible just the way they are. Sonetimes one has to do a little work and investigating to figure these things out. One cannot expect to have everything handed to them on a plate expecting it to work in a perfectly accessible manner. Everyone should put out a little effort and try to make these programs work for them. I do not know everyone's story on this list, but I lived for 45 years with my sight, then had to adapt to living without it, and just as in my profession as an engineer before, I am still finding ways to do the things that sometimes seem undoable to most people, and the first rule is that one cannot take things at face value, but must look at them from every angle to find the opening to the solution. I realize that Mike B's friend Mr Cusson is working diligently to try to get the Vipre development team to change the program to be "shout in your face" accessible, but this is not always required. I have a friend at Malware Bytes, William Roland, who kept me up to date on the progress of the release of version 2.0315, and he notified me when it was released, asking me to evaluate it and send back any further comments concerning the accessibility of the program. I had about 4 items to report back to him about, and was promised that these would be addressed in the next release. I also told him that, for the most part, the program is plenty accessible for a blind person to use. Please know that I am willing to help anyone who cannot get these programs to work for them, it only takes a little direction to get someone headed down the right path. Regards, Mike [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 3:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] malwarebytes 2.0315! This sounds like a minor update, so how is this version more accessible than version 2.0.3, which is not very accessible at all, contrary to what some users have reported. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Edenhofer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] malwarebytes 2.0315! > Also the latest version of malwarebytes, whitch is 2.0315, is accessible > with screenreaders! 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