Most laptops do not have a separate keypad. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer
----- Original Message ----- From: "petras" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: No insert keyonmynewlaptop keyboard I never seen this problem before, no insert key. I also have a problem, I have no keypad. Don't get why. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Date sent: Sun, 10 May 2015 09:03:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: No insert key onmynewlaptop keyboard Don't you just love how creative those laptop designers are? Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimber Gardner" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 12:40 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: No insert key on mynewlaptop keyboard Thanks to everyone for all the ideas and suggestions. As it turns out there is indeed an insert key on the keyboard of the new laptop but it's in a different place and only half the size of the "normal" keys. I had someone sighted look at the keyboard and he found the insert key tucked away above the f12 key. Who would have guessed? Certainly not me. I feel a little foolish, but at least I have my insert key back without the need for any fancy keyboard gymnastics. Thanks again to all who contributed to this discussion. Kimber On 5/9/15, Tom <[email protected]> wrote: thank you dave -----Original Message----- From: Dave Carlson Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 6:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my newlaptop keyboard Mike, You may have missed the original point, which is that the new laptop they purchased does not have an insert key. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike O'Brien" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 12:22 PM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my new laptop keyboard Hi If you're using the desktop keyboard layout, which is the default, insert is the JAWSKey. If you change to the laptop keyboard, CAPS lock is then the JAWSKey. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 02:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my new laptop keyboard for some reason, I always thought the jaws key, was the insert key -----Original Message----- From: Mike O'Brien Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my new laptop keyboard Hi Well, I have to correct my previous email. While insert+h and insert+j do perform those functions and CAPS lock+h and CAPS lock+j do other functions, I just found that there are actually Laptop keys to do those functions. They are control+shift+CAPS lock+h and control+shift+CAPS lock+j. I prefer the insert key. This is just a guess, but there is ;probably an insert key on that laptop, but you have to hold down the function key to use it. Hopefully the Laptop documentation will reveal some information. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 02:13 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my new laptop keyboard Mike, then I'm also mystified. If there is indeed a need for an Insert key, and none is on that keyboard, then how are those keystrokes to be performed? Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike O'Brien" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 11:04 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard Hi When you're using the Laptop keyboard layout, the CAPS Lock key is the JAWSKey, but not the insert key. I do not believe it will put you in or take you out of insert mode while typing. You can perform most of the JAWS functions using the CAPS lock key, but not all of them. While using the Laptop keyboard layout, there are a couple of functions that still require the actual insert key. You have to use insert+h to bring up Hot key help. Also you have to use insert+j to move to the JAWS window or bring up the JAWS context menu if you're running JAWS from the system tray. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 09:26 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but if I'm using the caps lock as my jaws key (which I am), how does it also function as the insert key? On 5/9/15, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: That''s right. If you set JAWS to the laptop keyboard layout, the caps Lock does function as the JaAWS and Insert keys. Great. Mike [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Tom Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 5:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard check in the help menu, laptop keystrokes. I use the cap loc ket as my insert key -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 5:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard Sounds to me like it may be time for a wireless keyboard with all of the keys on it. That's what I use and its great. I have one from Logitech and one from hp. Mike [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Kimber Gardner Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard There's no dedicated numpad on this keyboard either. <g On 5/9/15, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Kimber, The number pad key 0, which you know as the JAWS key when the Num Lock is turned off, also serves as the insert key. Therefore, the JAWS and the Insert key are one in the same. Mike [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Kimber Gardner Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 12:04 AM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard Hey All, I just got a new laptop and there is no insert key on the keyboard. It has been replaced by a double-sized delete key. I use the caps lock for my jaws key so that's not the problem. But is there some key combination I can utilize to invoke insert mode? And who the heck thought this new keyboard design was a good idea? Why do I need a double sized delete key anyway? Sheesh! All suggestions welcome. I'm stuck with this laptop for reasons I won't go into. Nor is an external keyboard the solution I would choose. Any other ideas? Thanks in advance. Kimber -- Kimberly For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Kimberly For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Kimberly For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Kimberly For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
