I know, right? I can just imagine them sitting around going, you know what 
would be a great innovation? Let's move the insert key. That will make people 
so productive.  , 

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> On May 10, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> Don't you just love how creative those laptop designers are?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 12:40 AM
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: No insert key on 
> mynewlaptop keyboard
> 
> 
> Thanks to everyone for all the ideas and suggestions. As it turns out
> there is indeed an insert key on the keyboard of the new laptop but
> it's in a different place and only half the size of the "normal" keys.
> 
> I had someone sighted look at the keyboard and he found the insert key
> tucked away above the f12 key. Who would have guessed? Certainly not
> me. I feel a little foolish, but at least I have my insert key back
> without the need for any fancy keyboard gymnastics.
> 
> Thanks again to all who contributed to this discussion.
> 
> Kimber
> 
>> On 5/9/15, Tom <tclar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> thank you dave
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 6:25 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my
>> newlaptop keyboard
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> You may have missed the original point, which is that the new laptop they
>> purchased does not have an insert key.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike O'Brien" <mike23...@verizon.net>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my new laptop
>> keyboard
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> If you're using the desktop keyboard layout, which is the default, insert
>> is
>> the JAWSKey.  If you change to the laptop keyboard, CAPS lock is then the
>> JAWSKey.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Tom
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 02:54
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my new laptop
>> keyboard
>> 
>> for some reason, I always thought the jaws key, was the insert key
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike O'Brien
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:26 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my new laptop
>> keyboard
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Well, I have to correct my previous email.  While insert+h and insert+j do
>> perform those functions and CAPS lock+h and CAPS lock+j do other 
>> functions,
>> I just found that there are actually Laptop keys to do those functions.
>> They are control+shift+CAPS lock+h and control+shift+CAPS lock+j.  I 
>> prefer
>> the insert key.  This is just a guess, but there is ;probably an insert 
>> key
>> on that laptop, but you have to hold down the function key to use it.
>> Hopefully the Laptop documentation will reveal some information.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 02:13
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: No insert key on my new laptop
>> keyboard
>> 
>> Mike, then I'm also mystified. If there is indeed a need for an Insert 
>> key,
>> and none is on that keyboard, then how are those keystrokes to be
>> performed?
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike O'Brien" <mike23...@verizon.net>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 11:04 AM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> When you're using the Laptop keyboard layout, the CAPS Lock key is the
>> JAWSKey, but not the insert key.  I do not believe it will put you in or
>> take you out of insert mode while typing.  You can perform most of the 
>> JAWS
>> functions using the CAPS lock key, but not all of them.  While using the
>> Laptop keyboard layout, there are a couple of functions that still require
>> the actual  insert key.  You have to use insert+h to bring up Hot key 
>> help.
>> Also you have to use insert+j to move to the JAWS window or bring up the
>> JAWS context menu if you're running JAWS from the system tray.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 09:26
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard
>> 
>> Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but if I'm using the caps lock as 
>> my
>> jaws key (which I am), how does it also function as the insert key?
>> 
>>> On 5/9/15, Mike Boyd <mike....@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> That''s right. If you set JAWS to the laptop keyboard layout, the caps
>>> Lock
>>> 
>>> does function as the JaAWS and Insert keys. Great.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> mike....@comcast.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tom
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 5:22 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard
>>> 
>>> check in the help menu, laptop keystrokes. I use the cap loc ket as my
>>> insert key
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Boyd
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 5:09 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard
>>> 
>>> Sounds to me like it may be time for a wireless keyboard with all of
>>> the keys on it. That's what I use and its great. I have one from
>>> Logitech and one from hp.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> mike....@comcast.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kimber Gardner
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:02 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard
>>> 
>>> There's no dedicated numpad on this keyboard either. <g>
>>> 
>>>> On 5/9/15, Mike Boyd <mike....@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Kimber,
>>>> 
>>>> The number pad key 0, which you know as the JAWS key when the Num
>>>> Lock is turned off, also serves as the insert key. Therefore, the
>>>> JAWS and the Insert key are one in the same.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> mike....@comcast.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kimber Gardner
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 12:04 AM
>>>> To: jaws-users-list
>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] No insert key on my new laptop keyboard
>>>> 
>>>> Hey All,
>>>> 
>>>> I just got a new laptop and there is no insert key on the keyboard.
>>>> It has been replaced by a double-sized delete key.
>>>> 
>>>> I use the caps lock for my jaws key so that's not the problem. But is
>>>> there some key combination I can utilize to invoke insert mode?
>>>> 
>>>> And who the heck thought this new keyboard design was a good idea?
>>>> Why do I need a double sized delete key anyway? Sheesh!
>>>> 
>>>> All suggestions welcome. I'm stuck with this laptop for reasons I
>>>> won't go into. Nor is an external keyboard the solution I would
>>>> choose. Any other ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Kimber
>>>> 
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