Thanks!
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 6:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Clinging to XP.
Here's what I copied from Google:
Free Upgrade FAQs
Video - Learn What's New
1.. Download Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO - Microsoft Windows
windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso
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Learn how to download an ISO file that you can use to install Windows 10
Insider
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2.. How to Upgrade to Windows 10 - Microsoft
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Learn how to reserve your free upgrade to Windows 10.
3.. Windows 10 Features - Microsoft
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GIFT (God is forever true),
Carolyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "j Bron" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Clinging to XP.
> Can you send me the link for that form? My understanding is that it's not
> coming out for a few months but I may as well be a girl scout about it, Be
> prepared. Best, Judith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 4:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Clinging to XP.
>
> It is. My husband already has filled in the e-mailed form from MicroSoft
> for
> Windows 10.
>
> GIFT (God is forever true),
>
> Carolyn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "j Bron" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Clinging to XP.
>
>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but I understood from a thread earlier in the
>> week
>> that upgrading to Windows 10 will be free from Microsoft.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W
>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 11:55 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Clinging to XP.
>>
>> I migrated from XP to 7 3 years ago when I bought a new PC. It really
>> isn't
>> that different from XP, and is much more stable. It is true that in time
>> XP
>> users will have a harder and harder time accessing their favorite web
>> sites
>> and taking advantage of added web functionality. One way that you can get
>> around not being able to update IE is to use Firefox. I haven't heard
>> anything about later versions of Firefox not working with XP.
>>
>> Besides security, another issue will be what will happen when you need to
>> replace peripherals like printers, scanners, etc. that do not have
>> drivers
>> for XP. My work stuck to XP as long as they dared, but we finally
>> migrated
>> to 7 in late 2013. Win 7 is not in the situation that XP is yet. MS will
>> provide updates and security fixes until 2020. You can probably find Win
>> 7
>> machines for sale, and you can update them to 10 at a later time if you
>> wish.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:37 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] Clinging to XP.
>>
>> The problem with clinging to XP is that if I continue to do so,
>> eventually
>
>> I
>> will not be able to get on the Internet. I keep getting warnings, but I
>> cannot update Internet Explorer with this system.
>>
>> GIFT (God is forever true),
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10, Here's what Microsoft should have
>> done
>> instead
>>
>>
>> Doesn't sound like something I'd break my neck to acquire. That's why so
>> many folks are still desperately clinging to XP like a drowning man
>> holding
>> a rope. That's why my builder and I agreed to go with Windows 7 as late
>> as
>> December, 2013. When it ain't broke, don't fix it!
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Trish
>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:27 AM
>> To: Jaws-users-list
>> Subject: Windows 10, Here's what Microsoft should have done instead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Windows 10, Here's what Microsoft should have done instead
>>
>> a.. By David Cardinal on June 9 2015 from the
>> b.. Extreme Tech Staff
>> c.. 'Document source Link:
>> d..
>> e..
>> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/207780-windows-10-heres-what-micros
>> oft-should-have-done-instead?mailing_id=1276983&mailing=ExtremeTech&mail
>> ingID=F98C71CE61AECF34AC8B64A964276FEA
>> f..
>> *
>>
>> * Windows 10 is a well-meaning effort by Microsoft to mollify
>> Windows 8 haters and coax Windows 7 loyalists to upgrade - all while
>> stubbornly sticking to its goal of a single OS for every possible
>> platform.
>> And by framing the problem that way, Microsoft has given itself a nearly
>>
>> impossible task.
>>
>> * To the company's credit, each new build lurches closer to
>> being
>> usable, although with new bugs every time, it is difficult to evaluate
>> how
>> smooth the final release version will be. Best case: It may earn the
>> grudging acceptance of Windows 7 users who refuse to move to Windows 8.
>> And
>> part of that acceptance will come not from sudden enthusiasm for a new
>> way
>> of interacting with the desktop, but from a desire to take advantage of
>> the
>> clear core benefits Windows 10 provides in performance, security,
>> administration, and memory usage over Windows 7 and even Windows 8.
>>
>> * So why is it so hard to convince users to move to a brand-new,
>>
>> free, feature-packed, more efficient OS?
>>
>> *
>> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/205320-microsoft-windows-10-will-be
>> -the-last-version-of-windows
>>
>> *
>>
>> * Apple does it all the time. Simply put, because Microsoft
>> didn't
>> build Windows 8 or Windows 10 for Windows users. It built them to further
>> its own business strategy of using the power of the once-ubiquitous
>> Windows
>> platform to extend its dominance into the rapidly growing mobile space.
>> The
>> result is an OS whose features are now flipping and flopping with each
>> new
>> build - as Microsoft tries to fix problems of its own creation.
>>
>> * Imagine how good a desktop OS Windows 10 could have been
>>
>> * What if instead, after realizing what a terrible mistake
>> Windows 8
>> was, Microsoft had made the truly brave decision to come clean and change
>> its strategy? If Windows 10 had been designed from the beginning to be
>> the
>> best possible desktop OS, and the thousands of developer years spent
>> trying
>> to make it everything to everyone were instead spent providing services
>> and
>> applications for the mobile OS platforms people actually want? If in
>> tandem
>> Microsoft was willing to let go of its sub-3% market share in mobile, it
>>
>> could also have spent the cash it used to buy Nokia to build out its
>> cross-platform services offerings instead. We could have had a really
>> excellent desktop OS - worth paying for -
>>
>> *
>> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/201601-microsoft-desperately-wants-
>> you-to-move-to-windows-10
>>
>> *
>>
>> * and great integration with the leading mobile platforms.
>>
>> * Certainly Microsoft has woken up to providing competitive
>> versions
>> of its applications on Android and iOS. But imagine how much further
>> along
>> it would have been if it had put real work into the effort starting years
>> ago. Perhaps we wouldn't have to use third-party utilities to sync our
>> information between Google and Outlook, for example. Or OneNote might
>> have
>> supported syncing on Android during the first several years it was
>> available, instead of only recently. Pick any Microsoft desktop
>> technology
>> you access from your iOS or Android device and you can come up with a
>> list
>> of features that would make it much more useful.
>>
>> *
>>
>> * It's not like there isn't anything to fix in Windows
>>
>> * Anyone who thinks Microsoft didn't focus on desktop users as
>> it
>> evolved Windows 8 and 10 because its desktop OS has "no need for
>> improvement" hasn't spent enough time wrestling with the inscrutable hex
>> error codes from Windows Update, or debugging driver version mismatches,
>> or
>> finding information they're sure is somewhere on their disk. While
>> Windows
>> 10 isn't final, judging by the builds so far, all of those problems are
>> still there. Even support for high-resolution displays is still spotty.
>> Windows 10 adds some new Zoom options, but there is still no serious
>> scalable-font solution that works across the full range of possible
>> displays.
>>
>> * As a good example of how this alternate direction would have
>> worked, let's look at the Control Panel. No one doubts that it is an old,
>> crufty system for managing a computer. A desktop-focused OS project would
>> have overhauled it completely while preserving its functionality.
>> Instead,
>> Microsoft seems determined to replace it in bits and pieces with new
>> "touch-friendly" settings that aren't much more intuitive, and that
>> become
>> even more frustrating when you need to go back to the old system for
>> pieces
>> that are still missing. Windows 10 is supposed to address this problem,
>> but
>> we're less than two months from shipment and Settings are still far from
>>
>> being either intuitive or finished.
>>
>> * Tablet mode and Continuum are also inventions seeking to solve
>> a
>> problem Microsoft has invented for itself. For the few of us who actually
>> own and use a Surface Tablet mode, it's sort of a good thing. (I love
>> that
>
>> I
>> can both taken written notes and run Outlook on my SP3, but with the
>> addition of desktop apps to Android, I'm not sure how many others will
>> see
>> the need to spend that kind of money for basic productivity.) It's good
>> because it is better than Windows 8, where often the touch keyboard
>> wouldn't
>> pop up when needed, and icons could be hard to finger.
>>
>> * It's still only sort of good, though, because it's confusing
>> and
>> forces the user to have one more thing to think about. Somehow iPads and
>>
>> Android tablets seem to easily survive the addition of a keyboard without
>> the need for an entire special OS mode. Like many of the other new
>> features
>> in Windows 10, it seems like a "throw it against the wall and hope it
>> sticks" attempt to solve a user pain point - not a from-the-ground-up
>> technology architected to support the broad range of devices that can now
>> run Windows.
>>
>> *
>>
>> * Windows 10 internals are actually pretty impressive
>>
>> * There is a lot to like about Windows 10 - in addition to
>> having
>> the best kernel Windows has ever had. Edge (aka Spartan) is promising
>> (although it too is only a prototype version, and certainly could have
>> been
>> shipped separately). Cortana might be useful, but is so limited and buggy
>> in
>> the current builds that it is hard to tell. If it doesn't get sorted out
>> by
>> July, Microsoft risks taking yet another step backwards in desktop search
>> functionality, which would be a shame. Virtual desktops are a nice
>> feature,
>> although hardly groundbreaking.
>>
>> * The included apps are certainly way ahead of the ones
>> Microsoft
>> shipped with Windows 8, but Microsoft has had many excellent desktop apps
>> over the years - including the now-dead Windows Media Center, LiveWriter,
>> and MovieMaker. It is the company's own fault that it feels the need to
>> start over time and again. On the tablet side, if Microsoft is serious
>> about
>> usability, it should be providing a better touch keyboard - one that
>> includes swipe-through typing, for example. I also wish the company had
>> finally fixed Windows Update. Mobile users won't put up with the way it
>> works now - they are spoiled by seamless OTAs from Apple and even many
>> Android vendors.
>>
>> * Perhaps the ultimate warning sign about Windows 10 for me is
>> that
>> for many, its positioning is summed up as being "no worse than the
>> six-year-old Windows 7, while adding support for tablets and phones."
>> That
>> sounds pretty silly, but maybe not far from the truth. I run a Windows 7
>>
>> desktop for some of my business-critical applications right next to a
>> couple
>> of Windows 8.1 machines and a couple of Windows 10 machines. I don't
>> really
>> feel any less productive when I'm on the Windows 7 machine, and I can't
>> imagine that I'll upgrade it to Windows 10 and risk something breaking.
>>
>> * Tablets are certainly a different story. I've already put
>> Windows
>> 10 on almost all my Windows tablets, and suspect most of the small number
>> of
>> Windows tablet users will also. Unfortunately for Microsoft, Windows
>> tablets
>> are a relatively small market, and may never become mainstream.
>>
>> * Laptops are the most interesting case. While each version of
>> Windows adds new power management features, that may not be enough to get
>> laptop users to upgrade. For example, Microsoft keeps changing the WiFi
>> settings interface, and for many of us, the new version is lame compared
>> to
>> the more powerful one that preceded it. Engineering laptops still ship
>> primarily with Windows 7, and I don't see anything about Windows 10
>> changing
>> that. Mainstream laptops will get dragged along onto Windows 10 because
>> of
>> the Microsoft marketing machine, but I don't know how many current laptop
>> users will bother to take advantage of the free upgrade. No doubt that is
>> part of why Microsoft is inflicting its Windows 10 adware on the already
>>
>> confusing Windows Update process.
>>
>> * At this point the die is cast, and we'll need to live with
>> whatever we get on July 29th - or stay put and hope the little
>> Get-Windows-10 nagware goes away.
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