Thanks for this very clear explanation. Alleluia. Neil
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of valiant8086 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 10:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Smart Navigation: How much do you understand? Hi. If you don't use smart navigation, everything behaves as before. Say word, Say Character are not quick navigation keys, but those two are the ones affected by smart navigation, when smart navigation is in affect, these keys require two quick presses to allow you to navigate the text character by character or word by word. This is because the arrow keys otherwise navigate by element, so one press of right arrow for instance might go to a link, or perhaps a button, you won't be able to use arrow keys to spell the name of the button for instance if you don't understand what it says unless you do sayCharacter keystroke twice quickly, thereafter the arrow keys will read the name of the button character by character as you'd expect. Remember, smart navigation is off by default anyway, and that only really affects sayWord and sayCharacter keystrokes. They do recommend however that you use semi auto forms mode or manual, because navigation quick keys like h won't work very well if you have smart navigation on, and fully auto forms mode, because if you arrow onto an edit box it will enable forms mode, then if you try to use h it'll just type h in the box instead of going to next heading, and you won't be able to get out of the box with arrow keys I suspect (not verified) until you hit escape. Navigation quick keys really are not affected in any way by smart navigation, but the auto forms mode setting remains with the same 3 options as in jaws 16. If you leave smart navigation off jaws will behave exactly as it did in version 16 when it comes to web pages in every way to the best of my knowledge. Also, yes, smart navigation will be new to JAWS 17. Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable On 9/19/2015 5:17 PM, Neil Towery wrote: > I changed the subject line to reflect your question concerning how > much we understand. > Doesn't look like the current smart navigation. Did not notice that > striking certain keys, such as H, would jump from heading to heading. > Looks like we have to do three keystrokes to get the same thing we > now get with one keystroke. > They are talking about doing the keystrokes twice quickly. > Where is the option to have it like it is in windows 7? > Neil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of inamuddin khan > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:09 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Smart Navigation > > Respected friend, here is the detail of smart navigation of jaws 17. > Read and let me know how much have you understood! > Smart Navigation, More Efficient Interaction with Complex Web Pages > and Applications Today and in the future, users will be faced with an > increased need to work with complex web forms, tables, and even > applications that run inside of a web browser. This will impact your > day to day interactions with services on-line such as banking and > shopping, in addition to many web apps found in both companies and > government agencies. For instance, Internet Explorer can be used to > log onto a Microsoft SharePoint server to collaborate with other > co-workers and create and store documents. The new Smart Navigation > feature is designed to make it more efficient when navigating > web-based applications with the Virtual Cursor as the LEFT and RIGHT > ARROW or CTRL+LEFT and > CTRL+RIGHT ARROW commands move by control instead of character and word. > This makes navigation such as moving across toolbars, tab strips, and > navigation links more like navigating around a desktop application. > Pressing the Say Character, Say Word, or Say Line commands twice > quickly changes to the traditional navigation by character, word, > line, sentence, and paragraph so you can review the text of the > control. Smart Navigation resumes when you press ESC, or move to a > different control by pressing UP or DOWN ARROW or TAB. > > For example, if you use the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys to move across a > tab strip, you might hear JAWS announce something like; "Home tab selected," > "Insert tab," and "Page Layout tab." If you wanted to review the items > on the tab strip character by character, press the Say Character (NUM > PAD 5), Say Word (INSERT+NUM PAD 5), or Say Line (INSERT+UP ARROW) > commands twice quickly. You can now navigate by character or word > until you press DOWN ARROW to move away from the tab strip to another control. > > Smart Navigation is off by default. To turn it on, do the following: > > Press INSERT+F2, select Settings Center, and press ENTER. > Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to open the default settings file if you want to > use Smart Navigation in all web browsers, or open the Internet > Explorer or Firefox settings file. > Type "smart navigation" without the quotes into the Search edit box. > Press DOWN ARROW to move to Smart Navigation in the filtered results > of the Settings Center tree view. > Press the SPACEBAR to choose the Smart Navigation option you want to use. > Press TAB to move to the OK button and activate it with the SPACEBAR. > The changes are made and saved. Settings Center closes. > Alternatively, Smart Navigation can be enabled for all web browsers > through the Startup Wizard, or through Quick Settings (INSERT+V). For > instance, you may want to use Smart Navigation in Firefox, but not in Internet Explorer. > > Smart Navigation offers two modes, Controls, and Controls and Tables. > > When set to Controls, most web-based controls, including, but not > limited to, buttons, links, edit fields, list boxes, tree views, and > headings, are treated as single units when navigating by character or > word. Performing a Say Character, Say Word, and Say Line command twice > quickly while focused on a control will switch to character and word > Navigation so you can use the traditional navigation by character, > word, line, sentence, and paragraph to review a control, such as the text of a button or link, in greater detail. > Smart Navigation by controls automatically resumes when you press ESC, > or move to another control using TAB or UP or DOWN ARROW. If you > encounter a table, you will still use the table reading commands > (CTRL+ALT+ARROW keys) or the Table layer (INSERT+SPACEBAR, t) to navigate the table. > > When set to Controls and Tables, navigation is the same as the > Controls option when not in a table. However, if focused inside of a > table, the RIGHT and LEFT ARROW keys move between columns while the UP > and DOWN ARROW keys move between rows. When focused in a cell and it > contains any controls, such as a heading, or an edit field, pressing > the Say Character, Say Word, or Say Line commands twice quickly will > switch to control navigation, and performing these commands again > twice quickly will switch to character and word navigation. If the > cell does not contain controls, you can only switch to character and > word navigation. Pressing ESC or moving focus away from the control or > table cell will switch back to the prior navigation level, for > example, pressing ESC while in character and word navigation will return to Smart Navigation in tables. > > When Smart navigation is active, press ALT+DELETE or INSERT+TAB to > have JAWS announce the current Smart Navigation level. > > Anytime you are using Smart Navigation, either set to Controls or > Controls and Tables, JAWS will work in Screen Layout. This presents > pages in the virtual buffer similar to how they appear visually on the > screen. Toolbar buttons or other lists of controls that are visually > laid out horizontally on the screen are displayed on one line in the > virtual document, allowing a single press of the DOWN ARROW to skip > the entire toolbar instead of having to move from button to button to get past it. > > For a great example, please try JAWS 17 on a web form such as the Web > Track sample form on the Surf's Up pages. On this page, you will be > able to see the power of navigating more efficiently with the DOWN > ARROW then in previous versions. > > New Sound Indication for Links > As you navigate by line with Smart Navigation active, JAWS plays a > sound if the current line contains one or more links which would > generally be displayed on separate lines when you are not in Smart > Navigation. This sound helps you identify that a link exists and gives > you a chance to pause to hear about it or use TAB or the ARROW keys to > move to it. To keep this sound from being too intrusive, it is not > heard if a line contains a link that is preceded by less than five > characters. For instance, a bulleted or numbered list that contains a link directly after the number or bullet. > With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: > Charlsdarwin1 > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Neil Towery > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 6:44 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Smart Navigation > > Hello Gang: > > Exactly what is the JAWS smart navigation, to which several of you > have commented? Is that just the keys like H to jump to headings, V > for visited links, et cetra? > > If not that, what is it? What does it do? And, how do you activate > smart navigation? > > Neil > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
