Agreed on that, it's just we ten to choose our battles. Honestly it is
getting tiresome.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 1:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Postponing Windows 10 at least for now

How about toning down the super long signature lines? You swear people are
going to start posting their entire bios at the end of every email...

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Postponing Windows 10 at least for now

Let's tone down things on here before I decide to do it myself. Everybody
gets along on here is rule 1 in my opinion.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from

a simpler system that worked perfectly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim" <buckeye...@wowway.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Postponing Windows 10 at least for now


Hi Gerald,
Oh boy, I bet you had to dig a long time to find that one example.
Of course there are some exceptions, to everything working in w-10, however,
very few.
You are just unhappy, that those of us, who are using w-10 are very
satisfied, with the way Windows 10 works with Jaws.
Have you tested out w-10 with Jaws yourself?
Have you helped hundreds of Jaws users set up and use Windows 10?
You are speaking from fear, not from reality, about the Windows 10 system.
I am speaking from experience from testing, and using Windows 10 myself, and
from helping hundreds of people, upgrade to, Customize, and navigate w-10
with Jaws.
You still feel a need, to discourage Blind people, from upgrading to Windows
10.
What's your problem, that makes you come across to this list, as a negative
and as an unhappy person.
Does this make you feel good?
Frankly, I think, Windows 10, is the best operating system that Microsoft
has ever released.
I think that Freedom Scientific, did a fantastic! job in getting Jaws 16 and
17, ready to work with w-10, right from the beginning.
So, enjoy your, negative comments about w-10, and your fear of the unknown
technology, but please quick trying to discourage others from trying it out
for themselves...









Jim Flusche:

Skype ID:
buckeye.jim

Join my new Windows 10 and Jaws Yahoo group at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.com

Cell Phone:

614-266-4545

Consider the snow flakes

Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all.
Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small
Look at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures,
created for all.
Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him
your soul.
Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever
you go.
Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die.

Author: Jim Flusche

GO BUCKEYES! Win another National title...
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Postponing Windows 10 at least for now


Not true.  Somebody on another list reported updating from Windows 7 to
Windows 10 only to  discover that his printer would not work.  He visited
the manufacturer's web site to try to locate Windows 10 drivers for his
model, but could not find any.  And he could not find any third-party
Windows 10 drivers for his particular printer, either.  So he was forced to
roll back to Windows 7, which was a better alternative than sticking with
Windows 10 and throwing his perfectly good printer in the garbage and having
to buy  a new one.  Apparently Windows 7 drivers may not necessarily be
compatible with Windows 10 for some printers and scanners.  So you cannot
assume that just because a printer works with Windows 7 it will also work
with Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- 
From: jim
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Postponing Windows 10 at least for now

Hi Gerald,
I have not heard one person complain about their printer or any other things
such as scanners not working when upgrading to w-10.
Any of your products that work in w-7, should work in w-10.
Take your time, and do research about these things yourself.
Don't freak out, or get overly worried about W-10,
Seriously, Windows 10 works great with Jaws.
Give it a try! and see for yourself...








Jim Flusche:

Skype ID:
buckeye.jim

Join my new Windows 10 and Jaws Yahoo group at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.com

Cell Phone:

614-266-4545

Consider the snow flakes

Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all.
Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small
Look at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures,
created for all.
Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him
your soul.
Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever
you go.
Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die.

Author: Jim Flusche

GO BUCKEYES! Win another National title...
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Postponing Windows 10 at least for now


Another issue to consider before upgrading to Windows 10 is peripheral
device compatibility.  Are Windows 10 drivers available for your printer or
scanner?  If not, then you may have to buy a new one and throw out the old
one even though it still works perfectly well with Windows 7 but may not
work with Windows 10 unless you can find compatible drivers for it.  But
buying a new printer or scanner may also be problematic because many of
them, especially all-in-one models often have display screens whose menu
options are totally inaccessible without sighted assistance.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:12 AM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Postponing Windows 10 at least for now

Hello, all.



Due to time constraints, and work-related reasons, I cannot upgrade to
Windows 10 at the current time, although I plan to do so probably early this
summer.



Can someone send me some steps to be sure I don't accidentally have Windows
10 installed on my various computers?





I'm currently using Windows 7 and Jaws 16 here.



I'm concerned due to recent posts on various lists about Windows 10
apparently being installed on computers without people's knowledge or
consent.





Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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