Alex, Have you tried John Martin's Blindtunes scripts? They work pretty well and I think they sell for around ten or fifteen dollars.
Kimber On 11/23/15, Flor Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > It's Leasey - Learn, Advance, So Easy - developed by Brian hartgen, to work > > between JAWS and iTunes. www.hartgen.org/leaseycentral >. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Stone > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 4:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... > > Rose, what's Lece for itunes, and more to the point how much is it? > I too hate iTunes for windows. > > On 23/11/2015 16:53, Rose Combs wrote: >> It is obvious they don't care about accessibility of iTunes for Windows! >> Every upgrade creates more problems. I loved my trial with Lesey for >> iTunes >> alone it would have been worth the price but PayPal and I have a >> hate-hate >> relationship so after the trial I am back to spending way more time doing >> something I want to do darn it! >> PayPal and iTunes both pretty much are more trouble than they are worth. >> Even trying to open a new account to solve my issues did not work, after >> I >> read numerous pages of liability stuff I never could find the place to say >> >> I >> read the legalese and to continue. >> Might work since one shopping site I used did not work right until I >> actually removed Silverlight but after months of struggling I decided to >> wait a long time before I try the site again. Unfortunately I >> occasionally >> nee iTunes for backups and it is my preference for updating, or it was >> until >> recently when the progress I used to hear disappeared. Last update of 9.1 >> >> I >> did over the air because iTunes was being stubborn. The iPad is still on >> 9.0.2 I think and I have not updated that because I don't use it all that >> much these days. It is one of the original mini iPads, and on 16 GB. I >> keep having to remove things for an update to happen and just have not >> been >> ready to do it. >> Sort of like Windows 10, I use 7, hesitate to mess up my computer when I >> use >> it daily. >> >> >> Rose Combs >> [email protected] >> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the >> memory! >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Flor Lynch >> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 12:38 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >> >> Hi, >> I believe that Apple could care less about Windows accessibility, since >> it's >> >> not their baby, and they see themselves as rivals to Microsoft in the >> computer world. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Don & Cher >> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 6:42 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >> >> Kinberly - Then I'm worried about the future of blind users with >> iDevices >> as you received a brush-off from Apple too. >> >> In my case, I'm re-ordering in order to burn the playlist onto CDs in the >> exact order they sound best together- so my purposes are quite different. >> Have never tried re-arranging on the phone- thought that would be >> difficult- >> interesting idea. >> >> Cher >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Alan Robbins >> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 12:44 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >> >> Kinberly, >> >> Handy suggestion, will keep it. >> Order of my playlists does not matter too much as I most always use the >> shuffle as I hate always hearing songs in the same order. >> >> Al >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimberly >> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:54 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >> >> This is not so much a solution as a workaround and is viable only if you >> have an apple device. But I usually rearrange songs on my phoe then sync >> the >> playlist back to the computer. >> >> I am not sure what is going on at apple accessibility, but I received the >> same nonresponse when I recently reported my inability to confirm payment >> information on the apple web site using jaws. >> >> Kimber >> >> Sent from Kimber's iPhone >> >>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Don & Cher >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I can offer an example. In iTunes, new playlists created >> with iTunes >>> 12.2.1 or later versions require drag and drop to >> re-arrange the order of the list. >>> (Old playlists created before 12.2.1 are not affected.). >> Since the >>> JAWS cursor sees nothing but blanks and graphics, I don't >> know of any >>> way to work with these new playlists using drag and drop >> as Apple >>> suggests. Here is my correspondence with Apple (read to >> the end). I >>> copied FS support re this but received one of those >> non-replies about trying JAWS in default mode. >>> RE: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes; Follow-up: >> 629039632 >>> Hello, Thank you for your reply. The Playlist items may be >> arranged >>> via drag and drop action. If JAWS has a drag and drop >> function, we >>> recommend trying that as a way to rearrange playlists. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Apple Accessibility >>> >>> On September 30, 2015 at 18:15:02 PM GMT, >> [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps you did not read to the end of my message. One of >> your own >>> accessibility support staff verified that changes in these >> versions of >>> iTunes make it impossible to edit and manipulate playlists >> created >>> with these versions without a mouse. Your technician was >> not using JAWS. >>> Cher Bosch >>> >>> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:05 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes; >> Follow-up: >>> 629039632 >>> >>> Hello, >>> Thank you for your email. At this time Apple includes >> support for the >>> Window-Eyes screen reader in iTunes. Other screen readers >> may require >>> an update. >>> If you find that another screen reader is not working >> correctly, >>> please check with the application developer to see if they >> have an >>> update for the software. >>> Sincerely, >>> Apple Accessibility >>> >>> On September 28, 2015 at 16:22:29 PM GMT, >> [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>> These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in >> playlists and >>> were created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3: >>> >>> *Selection: >>> Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, >> selection no >>> longer seems to follow the cursor keys- so standard >> windows keyboard >>> commands for cut or copy result in a "nothing selected" >> error message. >>> It is impossible to re-arrange the order of songs created >> under these >>> versions of iTunes. The only playlists which are still >> functional are >>> those which were created in prior versions of iTunes. >>> >>> *Navigation: >>> Using the arrow keys, after arrowing up or down for 15 or >> so lines, >>> the selection focus is lost. You cannot read the >> information or >>> proceed further in that direction without first arrowing >> backward one >>> line- which then allows you to move forward one more line- >> thus >>> advancing only one line at a time (backwards then >> forwards) in a >>> see-saw fashion. The cursor actually does move but the >> focus seems to >>> be lost and the new song information is not read. >>> Using the home or end key moves the cursor to the end or >> beginning of >>> the playlist; but JAWS does not read the information on >> that line. It >>> is necessary to arrow away from that song and back before >> the >>> information can be read. >>> Similarly, the page up and page down keys will not read >> the >>> information for the song on which the cursor lands. >>> >>> *Nuisance artwork: >>> With these iTunes versions, artwork appears on each line >> of the playlist. >>> Even copying the songs from an old playlist without >> artwork into a new >>> one created under these versions produces a playlist with >> the artwork icons. >>> * iTunes becoming unresponsive: >>> Accidental use of the standard windows command >> Control-Home results in >>> iTunes freezing. This command is so commonly used for >> various purposes >>> by keyboard users that this is bothersome. >>> >>> This is my previous message to you re these issues: >>> >>> From: Don & Cher [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:09 AM >>> To: '[email protected]' >>> Subject: Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in >> iTunes 12.2.1 >>> Since installing iTunes 12.2.1, new playlists are not >> accessible to >>> persons relying on keyboard accessibility to work with >> them. I phoned >>> Apple Accessibility recently to see if the tech could >> replicate my >>> problem. He verified that with the latest iTunes, you >> cannot use >>> keyboard shortcuts to select, copy or move songs in new >> playlists with the keyboard (using a PC). >>> He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did not have >> JAWS >>> installed, and could not perform these functions either. I >> can still >>> use all these keyboard commands within playlists created >> prior to >>> installing the new >>> iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and rename >> it (so I >>> can have a editable playlist) the newly duplicated >> playlist is >>> non-editable- apparently because it was duplicated under >> the new >>> iTunes. The only way I can add songs to one of these new >> playlists is >>> by using 'add to playlist' on the context menu- and the >> order of songs >>> is unchangeable by this method- I.E. the order you add the >> songs is >>> unchangeable after the fact. So, basically playlists are >> not very useful. >>> Cher >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List >> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom >>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:29 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>> >>> I do not have an example handy but It is when you say need >> to drag an >>> object from one place to another. We are not talking >> about thing like >>> files and folders but actual objects maybe a graphic >> something like that. >>> Tom Bisset >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List >> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins >>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:25 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>> >>> Tom, >>> >>> I have never encountered a situation where cut and paste >> did not work. >>> Send me an example sometime if you come across one. >>> >>> Al >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Bissett, >>> Tom >>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:05 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>> >>> As Peter said cut and paste is not an option. There are >> situations >>> where cut and paste don't work and dragging is the only >> option. >>> The problem with the drag and drop I found that it seems >> to work with >>> in the same window but doesn't work when trying to drag >> something from >>> one window to another window. >>> Of course it may be just me but hopefully some one else >> has a better >>> experience. >>> Tom Bisset >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Alan >>> Robbins >>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:49 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>> >>> Peter, >>> >>> Over the years, the consensus of this list has been to >> simply use cut >>> & paste, a lot simpler and consistent in results. >>> >>> Al >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of >>> [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>> >>> Has anyone been able to successfully drag and drop a file? >>> I got this requirement to do that, and can't seem to get >> it to work. >>> Cut and Paste isn't an option in this case. When I try to >> drag .. it >>> either doesn't do anything or comes back and tells me the >> object isn't visible. >>> Thanks for any help. >>> >>> Peter Logan >>> Database Administrator >>> SpartanNash INC. >>> Office: 616/878-8309 >>> Mobile: 616/304-9672 >>> E-Mail: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>> visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>> visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>> visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >> visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >> visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >> visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >> visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Kimberly For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
