Hi, Windows+TAB. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect
Sorry. I don't know how to open task view I don't think? Maria Campbell luc...@gmail.com Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, hunanity cannot survive. --Dalai Lama On 8/4/2016 7:56 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: > Hi, > Hmmm, that's odd... What do you see when you open Task View (Windows=TAB)? > If you don't mind, I'll forward this to Win10 forum so people over > there can contact you directly. > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Maria Campbell > Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 4:51 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to > expect > > Thanks Joseph but I still can alt tab only between two open windows > after choosing all desktops. > > > Maria Campbell > luc...@gmail.com > > Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. > Without them, hunanity cannot survive. > --Dalai Lama > > On 8/4/2016 7:36 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >> Hi, >> Ah, default virtual desktops setting might be in effect... Are you >> using multiple virtual desktops (that is, can you navigate between >> them by pressing Control+Windows+left or right arrows)? Try: >> 1. Press Windows+I to open Settings, then navigate to >> System/Multitasking (select the subcategory and press ENTER). >> 2. Press TAB until you arrive at "Pressing Alt+Tab shows windows that >> are open on" combo box. >> 3. If you see "only the desktop I'm using", select "all desktops". >> Press > TAB >> and your preference will be saved. >> Let us know if this doesn't resolve the problem. >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell >> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 4:27 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to > expect >> The only issue I've seen with the upgrade is that I can only alt tab >> between two open windows, even though I have more than two open. If > anyone >> can help me remedy this, I'd love it. Thanks. >> >> >> >> Maria Campbell >> luc...@gmail.com >> >> Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. >> Without them, hunanity cannot survive. >> --Dalai Lama >> >> On 8/4/2016 7:16 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote: >>> I have upgraded with no issues. well I mostly use NVDA I have a jaws >>> demo on here as a secondary screen reader in case i need it for >>> something. I hope though that VFO or freedom scientific makes a free >>> jaws tied to ms-office or something though so I don't have to >>> restart every 40 minutes. because I think jaws is better and has >>> some more useful features than window eyes does. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/4/2016 6:16 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Not quite: FS is aware of display compatibility issue. If you don't >>>> get the error, you can go ahead nad upgrad,e otherwise it is best >>>> to wait for a while. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:11 PM >>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes >>>> to expect >>>> >>>> or just do what i did. bypass it and use the free microsoft media >>>> creation tool and choose upgrade. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/4/2016 4:40 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I expect Microsoft to roll out a new MCT and/or let Version 1607 >>>>> propagate throughout the world. As of now, Microsoft and Freedom >>>>> Scientific (now >>>> VFO) >>>>> are fully aware of display compatibility flag issue for those >>>>> upgrading >>>> via >>>>> MCT. Unfortunately, not only this affects JAWS, but some >>>>> third-party >>>> screen >>>>> readers are affected as well (I got messages from two people who >>>>> said it affects VFO's other offerings). The advisories I and >>>>> others sent out yesterday are still in effect: wait for Version >>>>> 1607 to show up on Windows Update, or if you really like to use >>>>> MCT, you need to fiddle around in Device Manager, uninstall >>>>> whichever display driver is offending MCT >>>> (trying >>>>> to pinpoint what it is) and proceed. But for many, it is advisable >>>>> to use Windows Update. >>>>> The advisories and related threads are: >>>>> * Update to 1607, no go: >>>>> > https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/update_to_1607_no_go/2301501?p=, > ,,20,0 >>>>> ,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2301501 >>>>> * Advisory: for JAWS users, wait until Version 1607 shows up: >>>>> > https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/anniversary_update_advisory/2321 > 788?p= >>>>> ,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,40,2321788 >>>>> * Display compatibility flag: MS is aware of this: >>>>> > https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/important_anniversary_update/232 > 7524?p >>>>> =,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,0,2327524 >>>>> For members of certain Groups.IO lists: see the relevant >>>>> discussion around Windows 10 Anniversary Update. >>>>> >>>>> As for what's new and different: besides what Jim said, there are >>>>> many things new, changed, fixed and removed, including: >>>>> * Redesigned systems architecture (OneCore; cannot explain fully >>>>> in consideration for the audience scope, but suffice to say that, >>>>> with the Windows NT kernel restructuring, things that goes into >>>>> core basic >>>> components >>>>> will be found on all devices running Windows 10 Anniversary Update >>>>> (PC's, smartphones, HoloLens, Xbox, Server 2016, IoT and so on)). >>>>> * Vastly improved UI Automation. >>>>> * Much better Edge that opens up possibilities via extensions >>>>> (touch >>>> cursor >>>>> must be employed), UIA attribute changes and no longer allows >>>>> traditional ways of virtual cursor to function (the last one came >>>>> from a recent Main Menu podcast). >>>>> * Settings app reorganized, including the behavior Jim described >>>>> earlier. >>>>> * New settings in Settings app, including universal dark theme, >>>>> projecting screen content from Windows 10 Mobile or another PC, >>>>> app notification priorities, dedicated subcategory for Windows >>>>> Insider Program, ability to prevent Windows Update from being >>>>> attempted at a predefined time period, rearrange and >>>>> enable/disable quick actions and more. >>>>> * Control Panel's Taskbar properties has moved to Settings app. >>>>> * Start menu: reorganized, first-letter navigation partially >>>>> returns (see Jim's notes). >>>>> * Action Center: when you press Escape, Action Center will close >>>>> instead >>>> of >>>>> focus moving to a quick action. >>>>> * Press Delete from Action Center to remove notifications. >>>>> * Toasts (app notifications) no longer fires tooltip event, >>>>> potentially confusing screen readers. A slight modification to >>>>> FSUIA or related UIA handling code in jfw.exe must be modified to >>>>> recognize window open event instead and to keep an eye on UIA >>>>> attribute differences between normal and priority toasts. >>>>> * Skype Preview app is usable to some extent (touch cursor should >>>>> be employed in some cases). >>>>> * For Home and Pro, You cannot turn off Cortana easily (you need >>>>> to go deeper into Group Policy to change this). You can do this >>>>> easily (or in >>>> some >>>>> cases, Cortana might be disabled) if using Pro Education, >>>>> Enterprise and Education. >>>>> * You can invoke Cortana from lock screen if you choose. >>>>> * Windows Subsystem for Linux, complete with Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) >>>>> image >>>>> (x64 only), Bash (Bourn Again Shell), emulation of Linux kernel >>>>> 3.4 API >>>> and >>>>> so on. Running GUI Linux programs will require a hack, and kernel >>>>> modules, such as Speakup will not run. >>>>> * User Account Control (UAC) dialog interface is now powered by >>>>> XAML (eXtensible application Markup Language), the UI technology >>>>> that powers universal apps. >>>>> * You can pin apps or some windows from apps across virtual desktops. >>>>> * You cannot share Wi-Fi passwords with contacts. >>>>> * Windows Ink to centralize pen support and to provide a workspace >>>>> for pen and touchscreen users. >>>>> * Windows+Shift+C instead of Windows+C to invoke Cortana. >>>>> * Windows+Alt+D to open time and calendar. >>>>> * Ability to change audio devices straight from Volume Control >>>>> (there is a split button to do this). >>>>> * Windows+F is used to open Feedback Hub app with screenshots. >>>> Consequently, >>>>> there is no more Insider Hub nor Windows Feedback apps. >>>>> * Windows Insider Program participants will get first of a series >>>>> of >>>> builds >>>>> for Redstone 2 sometime this month, with the next stable build >>>>> scheduled >>>> for >>>>> 2017. >>>>> * No more 260 character limit for file paths (raised to 32K chars). >>>>> * General performance improvements were observed. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Joseph >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of >>>>> Holger >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:58 PM >>>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes >>>>> to >>>> expect >>>>> Still waiting for the update >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Holger Fiallo >>>>> Send from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:33 PM, James Flusche >>>>>> <jim.flus...@outlook.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Jaws user list. >>>>>> Hi group, I just did a Jaws tandem into Ed's new laptop which is >>>>>> running >>>>> the anniversary update of W-10. >>>>>> The settings area, changes: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. After pressing Windows key+I, you are now in the search edit >>>> box. >>>>>> 2. Tab one time to the category list of 9 main categories. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. After pressing enter on any of these categories, again you >>>>>> are >>>> in >>>>> the search edit box, just tab one time to the list of sub-categories. >>>>>> 4. . The first sub-category is always selected for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. Just begin tabbing across the choices. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. Again Jaws speaks too much information, just like at the >>>>>> first. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7. Always press, insert+Tab, this makes Jaws repeat what control >>>> you >>>>> are sitting on. >>>>>> 8. There are many new sub-categories in this new update. >>>>>> >>>>>> 9. I found a few places where Jaws had a hard time. >>>>>> >>>>>> 10. But overall, worked pretty good, at times, too much speaking. >>>>>> >>>>>> The start button area: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. After pressing the windows key, or pressing enter on the >>>>>> start >>>>> button. >>>>>> 2. You are in the search edit box. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Tab one time to, the navigation button. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Press the down arrow to get to all your shortcuts, Documents, >>>>> downloads, personal folders, and power button. >>>>>> 5. Tab again to, your list of apps and programs. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. First letter navigation only works from say, A to B. From >>>>> whatever letter you are currently in to, to the next letter, no >>>>> further. >>>>>> 7. Tab again to, the live tile region. >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
