Hi Brian,
Yes, I renamed the normal.dotm template, and also did a repair on Office
365. I tried changing the footer style, but it wouldn't accept a change that
way from within the edit field of the style. I was able to change its font
size, so changes can be made, though.
You guys have given me excellent advice, but so far I haven't been able to
resolve this. The good thing is that it works for you, so hopefully I can
fix this. I will get a sighted person to look at the screen as well, just in
case. Possibly, it might be an Office Word 365 thing as well.
I'll keep trying things.
Thanks.
Jean
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers
Hello again Jean,
Another thought is that if some of the styles are messed up, they are based
on the normal template. You could rename the normal.dotm file and restart
Word. The normal.dotm template should be created by Word and this might
cause the styles to work correctly. However, you have Office 365 and I am
not sure if you have the ability to work with those files in that version of
Word or not but you probably know whether or not you do. In Word 2013 you
go under the user folder, open App Data, open Roaming, open Microsoft, and
open templates to find the normal.dotm file. This would at least let you
know if the problem was with the styles. Again, though, I don't know if
this should be done in an Office 365 installation.
Take care.
Brian Lee
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers
Hi all,
Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.
But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style
and go back to the document. Any ideas?
Jean
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers
Hi Brian,
Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.
I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.
Very strange.
Jean
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers
Hello,
Here is some additional information on creating footers. I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.
Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen. To
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header
and footer group. Using Word 2013, this is done seven times. Tab to the
footer menu item and press enter. Alternatively, use Alt followed by N
followed by O. The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in
footer type is a footer with three areas. If you pick the second one you
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want. If
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then
leave a space before entering the page number. Immediately after inserting
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter. This will
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift
and P. Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the
design tab of the ribbon. You will find the “Link to previous”, “different
first page” and other often used options under the design tab. It is a good
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a
contextual tab, and then type the footer information. To insert a Next page
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N. Go To
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently
working with footers. Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a
footer area. The escape key should move focus from the footer area back
into the main document pane.
Take care.
Brian Lee
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers
I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.
I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert ->
Footer -> Edit Footer).
At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document
information, etc.
JAWS is reading everything as expected.
Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in
JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as
downloaded from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.
Jean Menzies <[email protected]> wrote:
I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.
I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own
unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws
doesn’t read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it
appears. Outside of the dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document
info, but this is a tedious way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for
editing, etc.
Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of
Word and Jaws.
Jean
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