> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of jaro
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:24 AM
> To: jBASE
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: How to speed up jbackup
> 
> I don't fully understand your reaction to my posting, Jim. 

Clearly :-)

> I think I didn't say anything wrong.

You either didn't read, or didn't understand what Greg was saying. That's all I 
was pointing out.

> I'm just trying to advise the initiator of the request.
> It was indicated that the database size is about 72GB. I assume it's a
> Temenos t24 system. Then I also assume that the data are stored on the
> storage array. Usually you build the filesystem of the several
> physical discs. I think the customer's database is offline during the
> backup. So I don't see any issue to run the backup in parallel. and
> it's just a matter of a simple script.

No, it isn't. However backups are whatever one believes them to be I suppose?

> If you need to run backup while the system is accessed by users then
> we should forget about jbase, and think about something more serious,
> like Oracle etc. 

Sigh. Why don't you try reading that back to yourself? Done a lot of work on 
the Oracle DBMS source code have you?

Having known people that have written code for Oracle for many years I can 
assure you that most of it is a pile of dingo's doings held together by bits of 
string and mediocre programmers. Buy the marketing hype if you like (after all 
many do), but Oracle does not get you anything better. 

Do you know what database Ciridian were using when they gave out 27,000 bank 
accounts (including mine) last month? 
http://solutions.oracle.com/partners/ceridian 

It's nothing to do with the database itself, it's the dangerous people that 
think they know what they are doing that are the problem. I imagine many of 
them go to tea parties and are offended by immaculate confections.

> and forget the tar, gzip, bzip and other commands.

See - you still don't quite understand :-) but don't let that stop you 
commenting will you?

> 
> If the backup is so crucial for the customer

Well I hope it is. 

> then they can search for
> the tools provided with the storage systems itself. Like symmetrix
> storages from EMC ot others offers similar tools like mirroring data.
> then doing short offline for few seconds and split the mirrored pairs.
> after the backup can be performed on that mirrored pair without
> affecting the primary system.

My point was that this subject has been done to death many times on this forum 
and a markmail search will tell you everything you need to know and that Greg 
posted a lot of useful information in his post but you didn't read it properly 
so did not see why his comment about the memory to memory transfer rates was 
relevant. You can reply to me, or you can read his email again. One is more 
useful to you.

Jim



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