Strange!

I'm sure John will get you sorted ! Say hi from me ...

Regards
Simon

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 11:43:06 PM UTC+1, Ken Wallis wrote:
>
> Thanks Simon, but we're pretty sure it's not specifically hardware.  It 
> may be HyperV related in one case, but the other box is physical.  What we 
> have now seen on both boxes is that the corrupted files are getting what 
> looks like output from a background process which ought to have gone to a 
> COMO or been discarded just written over the top of them.
>
> John Fenlon down here is being very helpful trying to track this down with 
> us.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ken
>
> On Wednesday, 3 June 2015 18:21:28 UTC+10, Simon wrote:
>
>> We have Server 2012 in production but on QM not jBASE.
>>
>> This should more likely to be a hardware issue than an OS related 
>> problem.   Key area may be RAID disk systems, particularly firmware related 
>> and I've seen this often with the use of write-through caching.   I had 
>> problems with DELL PERC-3 systems with iffy firmware where "chatty" files 
>> would corrupt.  It appeared that if a simultaneous write and read occured 
>> on the file then they could get out of sync and you would read the data 
>> before the write had taken place!   Hashed files such as that used by most 
>> MV systems would get incorrect links to overflow and all sorts....     
>>
>> It may not be this at all.
>>
>> Having said that, my experience with using jBASE for a no of years (v3 
>> though) was that I would get "random" file corruptions from time to time 
>> anyways.   I always suspected memory management as an underlying cause, but 
>> never pinpointed whether this was jBASE or Windows.....
>>
>> Not sure I've helped much!
>>
>> Regards
>> Simon
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 9:46:17 AM UTC+1, Ken Wallis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,  I'm just wondering how many people actually have production sites 
>>> running jBASE on Windows Server 2012?
>>>
>>> We (Paperless Warehousing) have 2 production sites with Server 2012 and 
>>> apart from the horrible mess Microsoft have made of the interface to this 
>>> server OS, everything seems fine except these sites experience at least 10 
>>> times the frequency of data corruption that we get at any other Windows 
>>> site and that's without them doing random reboots or anything like that.
>>>
>>> We have had completely static and never updated files like jBASE's 
>>> internal jbcmessages get corrupted, but most frequently it is an index on 
>>> one of our busiest files that goes south - often somewhere in the early 
>>> hours of the morning.
>>>
>>> Of these 2 sites, one is running 5.2.26 and the other 4.1.6.16.  The 5.2 
>>> server seems to have more trouble than the 4.1 site does, but both 
>>> experience far more issues than our Server 2003 or Server 2008 sites do.  
>>> We have been down the path of making sure the boxes aren't being rebooted, 
>>> verifying that the AV tools on the boxes have exceptions for the database 
>>> disks and checking that they aren't using the new ReFS filesystem, but 
>>> still we keep getting files that look like they've had random blocks 
>>> stomped onto them.  For example we've had distributed file stubs which 
>>> should be less than 1K suddenly become much larger and stop working - the 
>>> first few bytes seem right, but the part file information is all wrong and 
>>> the file is a few MB.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if anyone has spent enough time with this OS to identify a 
>>> service that Microsoft might have added that thinks it is helping us but is 
>>> actually stuffing us up.
>>>
>>> Short of that, I'd just be interested to hear if there are hundreds of 
>>> sites out there running on Server 2012 without any issues - at least I'd 
>>> know it was only us going mad!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ken Wallis, Paperless Warehousing
>>> Sydney, Australia
>>>
>>

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