Thanks Daniel,
This is more good information. I like the fact that SP-TYPE only needs to 
be done once. I was thinking every time.
I will continue with my trial and error testing...
Patrick

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 12:51:53 AM UTC-7, Daniel Klein wrote:
>
> You're on the right track but you need to assign the form type to the 
> queue *before *you create any print jobs, and you only need to assign the 
> form type once per queue.
>
> So the steps are:
>
> Setup (this only needs to be done once per queue):
> 1) create the form queue
> 2) create the form type
> 3) SP-TYPE formqueue formtype
>
> After this setup has been done:
>
> 1) SP-ASSIGN formquue
> 2) Spool the job(s)
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:04 PM, Patrick McCann <osag...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> I copied jspform_deflt to jspform_custom following your example.
>>
>> I then created a small program called HP_PCL_C12L coded like this -
>>
>>       $INCLUDE FILE.LIB.CUS HP.COMMANDS
>>       $INCLUDE FILE.LIB.CUS HP.PCL
>>       *
>>       PRINTER ON
>>       PRINT HP.LANDSCAPE:HP.COMPRESS
>>       PRINT "THIS IS A TEST LINE 1"
>>       PRINT "THIS IS A TEST LINE 2"
>>       *
>>       STOP
>>       END
>>
>> And another called HP_RESET coded like this -
>>
>>       $INCLUDE FILE.LIB.CUS HP.COMMANDS
>>       $INCLUDE FILE.LIB.CUS HP.PCL
>>       *
>>       PRINT HP.RESET
>>       *
>>       STOP
>>       END
>>
>> I then added the following to the jspform_custom file
>>
>> STARTJOB HP_PCL_C12L
>>
>> and
>>
>> ENDJOB HP_RESET
>>
>> Here is my testing and results -
>> SP-ASSIGN =F4
>> SP-TYPE F4 custom
>> LIST PTRS LPTR
>>
>> On the first page, I do see the two "TEST" lines printed in 
>> the HP_PCL_C12L routine and they print correctly e.g. landscape and 
>> compressed print.
>> That is the only thing on the first page. Almost as if it is its own 
>> unique print job.
>> Then an empty page
>> Then the PTRS file listing in portrait and larger print. e.g. normal 
>> print.
>> Then an empty page.
>>
>> Based on this it does call the HP_PCL_C12L routine from jsform_custom. It 
>> just doesn't work as I expected it to.
>> I guess I am not understanding something about this flow? Is using a 
>> program to "PRINT" the PCL codes correct?
>>
>> The other test I tried was printing a job from the Spooler.
>> SP-ASSIGN =F4
>> SP-TYPE F4 custom
>> SP-EDIT 3
>> Then spool the job.
>> The results were that ONLY the spooled job printed. It printed portrait 
>> and larger font e.g. normal print
>> The two "TEST" lines are NOT printed. It appears the HP_PCL_C12L routine 
>> is NOT called from jspform_custom.
>> Then a blank page
>>
>> Is my understanding of *"The 'set_pcl' and 'reset_pcl' would be your 
>> programs that send the PCL sequences to the printer."* correct? I.e. use 
>> of a basic program to send the codes?
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:25:44 AM UTC-7, Daniel Klein wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, the way this is done is to use a custom form type. Take a look at 
>>> '$JBCRELEASEDIR/config/jspform_deflt'.
>>>
>>> Use
>>>
>>> STARTJOB set_pcl
>>> and
>>> ENDJOB reset_pcl
>>>
>>> to set the PCL sequences before and after print job are despooled.
>>>
>>> The 'set_pcl' and 'reset_pcl' would be your programs that send the PCL 
>>> sequences to the printer.
>>>
>>> Don't forget to assign the custom form type to the form queue. For 
>>> example, if the form queue is HPLASERJET and the form type is 
>>> 'jspform_custom' then
>>>
>>> SP-TYPE HPLASERJET custom
>>>
>>> will assign 'custom' to the HPLASERJET queue.
>>>
>>> Daniel Klein
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 11:49 PM, Patrick McCann <osag...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Again, Thank you Daniel. Very good detailed information. I will put 
>>>> this away for later reference.
>>>>
>>>> You have helped me get past several hurdles and helped me with my 
>>>> understanding of the the Spooler.
>>>>
>>>> *I have one last hurdle related to printing that I am still trying to 
>>>> figure out a solution for.*
>>>>
>>>> I will go ahead and describe it here for you and any others to offer 
>>>> any suggestions or possible solutions.
>>>>
>>>> Problem -
>>>> I only have one printer. An HP Laserjet 500 MFP M525.
>>>> I need to print several different report formats to this printer e.g. 
>>>> 80 column, 132 column, and varying font sizes.
>>>>
>>>> In my previous environment (UniVerse on a Windows 2k Server) I was able 
>>>> to modify the SP.ASSIGN program to use a file I created.
>>>> The SP.ASSIGN was a program that executed the SETPTR command behind the 
>>>> scenes. SETPTR in that environment had more options than are available in 
>>>> jBASE 5.7. 
>>>>
>>>> I was able to utilize these other options to accomplish my 
>>>> requirements. By reading the file I created that held the options I 
>>>> wanted, 
>>>> everything was correctly set during assignment of the printer (SP-ASSIGN).
>>>> Here are a couple examples of records from the file I created - It held 
>>>> the printer, page width and length, top and bottom margins, print mode, 
>>>> font type, size, and the other available options I needed.
>>>> I would parse out the forms assignment from the SP-ASSIGN, read the 
>>>> file, get the options, and execute the SETPTR command with the required 
>>>> options.
>>>> 0
>>>> TOP
>>>> .P
>>>> TOP
>>>> 001 HP5SI
>>>> 002 ,132,59,0,0,
>>>> 003 GDI,FONTNAME Courier,FONTSIZE 7
>>>> 004
>>>> 005
>>>> 006 132 COLUMN
>>>>
>>>> 3
>>>> TOP
>>>> .P
>>>> TOP
>>>> 001 HP5SI
>>>> 002
>>>> 003
>>>> 004
>>>> 005 3
>>>> 006 &HOLD& OUTPUT
>>>> BOTTOM
>>>>
>>>> *jBASE support mentioned I would need to use jspforms which I will 
>>>> start researching, but thought I would ask the question now for any 
>>>> comments/suggestions.*
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 3:22:57 PM UTC-7, Daniel Klein wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You are correct, the 'n' in this case is the channel number and is 
>>>>> used with PRINT ON.
>>>>>
>>>>> These statement groups are equivalent (using the queue names from my 
>>>>> original post):
>>>>>
>>>>> SP-ASSIGN 42=VENUS
>>>>> SP-ASSIGN 52=EARTH
>>>>>
>>>>> SP-ASSIGN F2 R42
>>>>> SP-ASSIGN F3 R52
>>>>>
>>>>> SP-ASSIGN Q2 R42
>>>>> SP-ASSIGN Q3 R52
>>>>>
>>>>> SETPTR 42,,,,,,VENUS
>>>>> SETPTR 52,,,,,,EARTH
>>>>> [I'm not as fluent with SETPTR but I do know that the first parameter 
>>>>> is the channel. Not sure if I got the right number of commas in there. 
>>>>> However, I find the SP-ASSIGN syntax more intuitive and can do most, if 
>>>>> not 
>>>>> all, of the things SETPTR can.]
>>>>>
>>>>> Once the channels are assigned to the queues, you can do things like 
>>>>> this in a BASIC program
>>>>>
>>>>> PRINTER ON 42
>>>>> PRINTER ON 52
>>>>> PRINT ON 52 "Launch the rocket to VENUS"  ;* Prints to the EARTH form 
>>>>> queue
>>>>> PRINT ON 42 "Houston, we have a problem!" ;* prints to the VENUS form 
>>>>> queue
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet...unless I wrote it. 
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Mark Hogden <ma...@proman.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> =fqname is the same as 0=fqname which equates to the default PRINT in 
>>>>>> JBC
>>>>>> 1=fqname is used for PRINT ON 1 
>>>>>> You can go up to 99=fqname if memory serves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 09:24, Patrick McCann <osag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi  Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the excellent and detailed information. It really gives 
>>>>>> me a good understanding between the two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now having a better understanding of the two I have some follow-up 
>>>>>> questions I am hoping you might be able to provide some help on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to understand the following -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Rn assigns specific report number n. Only valid if an equals sign 
>>>>>> (=), is not present in the command line.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Is this command in anyway related to the form queue number? I don't 
>>>>>> believe so, but am not sure. I think it is used with "PRINT ON {n}", but 
>>>>>> would like to know for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And last, in the following command -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *SETPTR {channel},,,,,,BANNER 'Some user text'*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is {channel} in anyway associated with the form queue number or is it 
>>>>>> just used to set-up the page characteristics for the "PRINT ON..."?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again for your help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 7:47:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick McCann wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am hoping somebody can help make sense of this for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to understand the difference/relationship/etc... between 
>>>>>>> the two. I have read the documentation and still can't figure it out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at the following from the documentation, it talks about the 
>>>>>>> queue number, and only valid if NO (=) sign is present.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Fn assigns specific form queue number n. Only valid if an equals 
>>>>>>> sign (=), is not present in the command line.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does every form queue name have an associated form queue number? If 
>>>>>>> so, how it is defined? Can it be changed? What is the purpose?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> Patrick
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