You might also have a file that is accessed by one of the phantom jobs that
is poorly sized.

Dick

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 17:50 Alan Metz <alanm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I am familiar with wtmp, thanks for the suggestion!  I periodically
> clear it, now would be a good time to re-visit!!
> (I also clear /etc/security/failedlogin as it can grow quite large as well)
> Thanks John
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 5:33 PM John Ocampo <
> joca...@sunrisecreditservices.com> wrote:
>
>> I was on an older version of AIX, and i seem to remember a file called
>> wtmp that would grow so large it slowed down the login process.
>>
>> Not sure if this can help but i figured you should look at that file and
>> see how large it is.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.2?topic=overflows-resolving-in-var-file-system
>> Resolving overflows in the /var file system
>> <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.2?topic=overflows-resolving-in-var-file-system>
>> Check the following when the /var file system has become full.
>> www.ibm.com
>>
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>> *From:* jbase@googlegroups.com <jbase@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
>> Alan Metz <alanm...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2023 2:58 PM
>> *To:* jbase@googlegroups.com <jbase@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Jbase Response Delay
>>
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>> Well...
>> I did some more testing.
>> btw AIX 6.1, no changes to AIX, and yes, using telnet
>>
>> I assume that you have ruled out network configuration changes?  (We did
>> increase bandwidth across the entire network recently)
>>
>>
>> I removed the SD-WAN network from the equation over the weekend.
>> I attached my laptop to a switch and the server ONLY to the same switch -
>> I did notice the delay.
>>
>> Tried same setup with a different switch - noticed delay
>> Tried different Ethernet cable from server to switch - noticed delay
>> (I wrote a program to track the frequency by Executing a LISTPEQS and
>> recording the time it took to render the results, if greater then 1 second
>> I tracked the time - most
>> iterations are less than 1 second. What I found out was that it appears a
>> ~40 second delay occurs approximately 5 to 6 minutes apart. (there were a
>> few 2 to 3 second pauses
>> between that I excluded))
>> Event Date  Start Time    End Time    Delay Seconds
>> 04/18/2023  11:42:10AM  11:42:53AM    43
>> 04/18/2023  11:47:56AM  11:48:39AM    43
>> 04/18/2023  11:53:33AM  11:54:16AM    43
>> 04/18/2023  11:59:28AM  12:00:12PM    44
>> 04/18/2023  12:05:13PM  12:05:54PM    41
>> 04/18/2023  12:11:03PM  12:11:39PM    36
>> 04/18/2023  12:16:53PM  12:17:34PM    41
>> 04/18/2023  12:22:34PM  12:23:17PM    43
>> 04/18/2023  12:28:34PM  12:29:16PM    42
>> 04/18/2023  12:34:05PM  12:34:48PM    43
>> 04/18/2023  12:39:50PM  12:40:34PM    44
>> 04/18/2023  12:45:43PM  12:46:26PM    43
>> 04/18/2023  12:51:26PM  12:52:09PM    43
>> 04/18/2023  12:57:05PM  12:57:49PM    44
>> 04/18/2023  01:02:33PM  01:03:16PM    43
>> 04/18/2023  01:08:26PM  01:09:09PM    43
>> 04/18/2023  01:14:22PM  01:15:05PM    43
>> 04/18/2023  01:19:58PM  01:20:42PM    44
>> 04/18/2023  01:25:42PM  01:26:27PM    45
>> 04/18/2023  01:31:41PM  01:32:25PM    44
>>
>> My question is can I somehow determine if a background process is causing
>> the hangs?  I do have Phantoms jobs in Jbase running; however, The code has
>> not changed in years and no new Phantoms
>> have been added.
>>
>> I have added more users on  the network over time, but removing the
>> network as mentioned above was tested.  Unfortunately, I didn't write the
>> tracking program until Monday, after the "removing the network" test.
>> (I will say that the delays didn't appear to be as frequent with just me
>> and the server test - I suppose I could test that this weekend...)
>>
>> I wish I could provide more information, but I don't know what else to
>> test??
>> Thanks,
>> Al
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:42 AM Kannan Seshadri <kaneso...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Is it possible for you to execute whatever you are executing directly on
>> the AIX console with a telnet session?   This will clearly tell you whether
>> you have a network issue or not?
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 6:42 PM Bruce Decker <bdec...@bluepinc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is the delay between the login prompt and the password prompt?  As jimi
>> asked, more details.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2023, at 8:45 AM, Jim Idle <j...@idle.ws> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I think more details are needed Alan.
>>
>> What version of AIX are you running?
>> Are you really using telnet and not ssh? Telnet is unlikely to be
>> maintained.
>> I assume that you have ruled out network configuration changes?
>> Any upgrades to AIX lately?
>> Any change to the network load? New devices?
>>
>> In the absence of any changes, then I would definitely be looking at
>> network problems. When you say you tried with just one user, do you mean
>> literally one device and the server only on the network? If there is a
>> faulty system somewhere, or malware, then that would still eat your network
>> Bandwidth.
>>
>> Finally, I presume you have done the obvious and rebooted the server and
>> all the network gear? You’ll probably have to start from first principles
>> with no devices on the network and gradually add them in.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 21:12 Alan Metz <alanm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>    I have recently been experiencing sporadic response delays when
>> accessing Jbase, (version 5.6.0.2), from telnet sessions with all users in
>> my company. At first I thought it was a network issue; however, I have
>> tested this with only one user and the Jbase server plugged into a switch
>> and was able to duplicate the hesitation. I am not logging any errors on my
>> AIX server that would indicate a hardware issue. I am not sure how to
>> further trouble-shoot this issue and am asking for suggestions.  This
>> system has been rock solid since 2018.
>> Thanks,
>> Al
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