Very interesting guys, many thanks for the great explanation.

I have observed the same issues you rightly noted and as a result I
only look at price action - which is the outcome of any trading
decision.

Is there a strategy that looks at price action, then use depth balance
to support the direction.

With our naked eyes, we can sometimes see a sudden push to the upside
or to the downside - is there a way to detect the first one or two
ticks of the move and join the party as early as possible?


On Jun 9, 2:40 pm, nonlinear5 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Depth balance is a number between 100 and -100.   At one extreme, all the
> > orders would be on the bid side, on the other extreme they are all on the
> > ask side, and at 0 there are equal numbers of bids and asks (adding each of
> > 10 levels on the bid side, and the ask side).
>
> Just to expand on this a little. The idea with tracking depth balance
> and its changes (known as velocity of balance in JBT) is that the
> Level2 sizes and prices represent the current demand and supply
> (buyers and sellers) in a particular market. Depth balance in JBT
> measures exactly that. Of course, if things were as pure and linear as
> the classical economics prescribes it, your strategy would buy when
> the demand exceeds the supply, and sell short otherwise. In reality,
> things are much more complicated.
>
> First, there is a lot of noise which obscures the patterns.
>
> Second, there is a lot of game playing in the L2 where players flash
> bids with the real intention to sell, and flash offers with the real
> intention to buy.
>
> Third, there is a powerful factor which works against the classical
> theory. This factor states that the market will move to the point of
> the highest liquidity. That is, the price will move in the direction
> where the highest number of shares/contracts can be traded. If you
> think about this, it makes sense. The large players moving a lot of
> money in the market don't care where the price moves. They only care
> how they can make the largest amount of money with as least risk as
> possible. They will go long as easily as they would go short,
> especially in the futures markets. So, let's consider a classical
> case. The demand is 10000 (that is, the cumulative bid is 10,000
> contracts), the supply is 1000 (that is, the cumulative offer is 1,000
> contracts). Clearly, the demand far exceeds the supply, so by all the
> scientific economic principles, the price should go up. Now imagine
> that you are a big guy, and the way that you make money is move 10,000
> of contracts at a time. In this particular situation, there is not
> enough liquidity on the supply side to move your size, but enough on
> the demand side. That is to say, it's easier for you to actually sell
> 10,000 than to buy 10,000 contracts. As a result, while everything is
> telling us that the price is about to go up, it may in fact move down,
> as a result of you "selling into liquidity".
>
> So, all of these factors complicate things. Ultimately, it comes down
> to whether you can somehow take them into account and come up with a
> strategy to take advantage of them.

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