have to agree. trading anything, at any time, without minimizing potential
losses is dangerous. jbooktrader is a vehicle. the driver takes his own
responsibility.

is it true that jbt doesn't have stoploss/trail trade implementation for IB?
also agree that this is necessary. if it doesnt exist by the time i get
around to actually looking at code, i'll do it.



On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:27 PM, ShaggsTheStud <[email protected]>wrote:

> First of all, writing an email thread titled "JBookTrader can be dangerous"
> is somewhat rude.
>
> Second of all, if you are trading with enough leverage to bankrupt you, and
> you need stoplosses to keep your account alive, then there is probably a
> problem.     I think your post should be titled "Trading with a lot of
> leverage can be dangerous."
>
> But, the feature you mentioned would be nice.  How about you program it and
> distribute it as a patch?
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Victor Martin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That happened some days ago to me, incurring quite big losses on my
>> account :(
>> Stop Loss seems good solution for that "client failure" problems.
>>
>> However there is another problem that needs to be corrected as soon as
>> possible too, cause it nearly wiped out my account. I reported it to Eugene,
>> and now I'm sharing with the list to see if anybody suffered that and how
>> can we solve it smoothly.
>>
>> Imagine you have 2 open positions and 3 strategies running. If 3d strategy
>> tries to open a position and you have insufficient funds to cover margin, IB
>> will reject your order. However JBT won't get noticed of the order rejection
>> and will get to a "frozen" state, where any of running strategies will close
>> their positions. Under an unattended JBT running instance that means that a
>> strong inversal trend can incurre you big losses (as happened to me).
>>
>> Best,
>> Victor
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM, alrts <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eugene,
>>>
>>> Imagine that your strategy establishes a long position. As you have
>>> had good results in the previous weeks you opted to trade 5 contracts
>>> instead of one this day. Soon after that, your internet connection
>>> goes down along with your home phone (same provider) and it happens
>>> that you misplaced your portable phone or you cannot find IB's phone
>>> number. Now after desastrous news coming in by a ticker ES falls like
>>> a rock.
>>>
>>> This can cost you several month's cumulated profits in a matter of
>>> seconds.
>>>
>>> The IB API offers methods to avoid this: Along with your MARKET order,
>>> you can place a second order that will become active as soon as your
>>> initial order has been filled. The only thing you have to do is to
>>> place a STOP LOSS (child) order and supply the order ID of your
>>> initial (parent) order in your order object of the STOP order.
>>>
>>> order.m_parentId = order ID of initial order
>>>
>>> The stop price for this STOP order depends on the maximum of points
>>> you are willing to risk in such averse situations. I think it would be
>>> best to define it within your strategy base (per instrument) with an
>>> overwriting capability within the individual strategy. It should be
>>> very easy to implement.
>>>
>>> What do you think about this?
>>>
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