Hugo, no need to apologize, this was targeted at everyone including Ricky
and me... on the contrary I am always delighted when someone reaches the
container  stuff.

Please keep it coming, your "attitude" was never the question.

Honestly,

regards

marc


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hugo Jos� Pinto
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 2:00 PM
> To: jBoss Developer
> Subject: Re: [jBoss-Dev] notes on XP
>
>
> marc,
>
> I somewhat feel responsible for much of this fuss. Altought I'm
> getting some
> startup ideas running here in Portugal, I am mostly a tech freak.I
> architecture large Webs and teach Weblogic (well, J2EE, the course hardly
> touches the app. server itself) & Java. When I went across jBoss I thought
> "Wow! What a great app. server I can use for my sites here! And NO large
> bucks to get it! This is my dreamworld." I kind of felt in love with your
> project. I subscribed the list and followed it from work for months now.
>
> In the last week, I thought "humm, I already know a bit sbout it,
> so maybe I
> can join this effort in a decent manner".
>
> > I think we have a great group of peers and the basic assumption needs to
> be
> > "trust".
>
> Most definitely true. <shame> I deeply regret </shame> my posts if they
> somehow made you feel untrusted - as I said before, you guys
> rule. My point
> in posting the architectural question add mostly to do with a feeling of
> mine that this change would somehow hurt the wonderful creation you're
> giving birth - limiting it's future growth.
>
> > I have seen rickard "naked" he has seen me "naked", in the code
> > sense of course.  And when we see each other naked, instead of saying
> "here
> > PooPoo" :)) we should say... let me fix this... you did a good
> first pass,
> > how about this second pass ??? and when I am done with it can you take a
> > third pass :)))
>
> This was my deepest feeling. I allways tried to propose some
> solution to the
> issue I was pointing out. <deep-regret-if-it-didnt-sound-like-that/>
>
> > So let's continue working just like we did, but change our
> mindsets a tiny
> > bit (including me).  We have a unique group of PEERS, an
> outstanding team
> of
> > world experts, and as an open source Team (some of it on Telkel
> staff) we
> > are putting forth something I feel is worth gold and we should
> collectively
> > work on.
>
> Man, now I feel like sh*t... :)
>
> Marc, please, look, my point here is that open discussion of open issues
> pays off in the long-term. THAT way my feeling ("hey, I think I have a
> better way to do this, let's try that all of us get to benefit
> from it" kind
> of thing). I didn't wanted to start a war.
>
> Deeply apologize if I did.
>
> Hugo
>
>
>
>


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