> A few weeks ago, Marc posted a message about the "Sys Admin" culture and
> how important it is to understand these guys if you're marketing to them.
>
> I just toured the hardware room of a fairly large Texas company developing
> large-scale internet applications.  I know they're familiar with
> WL - they
> might even be using it.

I used to be one of those sysadmins, running a dot-com site with Oracle on
SAN, Sun Enterprise boxes, 100% replicated hardware HA environments :) gotta
tell you, those routers are cool shit :)

Sacha and Peter both bring up good points,
built in load balancing can be useful for small sites, but it is not one of
our the biggest challenges.

it can easily be built in at a later stage

looks like we are all saying the same thing

Filip

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Namaste - I bow to the divine in you
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Filip Hanik
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Coleman
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [jBoss-Dev] CL: Clustering, let's get started
>
>
>
> Filip wrote:
> >
> > > if you want to do loadbalancing, you have much better
> performance using
> > > non-clustered servers and a stateful loadbalancer.
> > > as a matter of fact, you can buy a load balancing router for
> a couple of
> > > thousand bucks, so why try to replicate functionality that is
> > > already done.
> > > even with weblogic, if you are serious about loadbalancing
> > > because you have
> > > sooooo much traffic, you do it the hardware way. again this is in
> > > my humble
> > > opinion :)
> >
>
> Sasha wrote:
> >
> > I think we need to develop an hardware-less solution as much as
> possible.
> >
>
> My $.02
>
> Contributed in the spirit of:
>
> "Are we sure we have a problem, and are we sure it hasn't already
> been "fixed"?
>

>
> The place was stacked with Sun "pizza boxes", larger servers, and
> a rack full
> of (vendor name deleted - they're much too big and overpriced)
> guess what...
> load balancing routers.
>
> It's what these guys understand.  If it "breaks", they replace the box.
>
> Tom
>
>
>


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