And as my final 2c (at least for now) on this, I've used Allaire JRun a fair
amount, they built their admin tool using JSP and running in a separate
webserver (actually Oracle OAS 4.X used to do this too I think.) Anyways,
they had lots of quirky little config files and the JSPs didn't really edit
them right either, they'd leave bits and pieces here and there if you
removed something (and yes, Oracle's web admin had the same problems). I
imagine this was a quick way to get something put together though, but the
tool really needs to maintain consistency.
Cheers
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Fagerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The next generation GUI (was : Re: [JBoss-dev] EJX and XML)
on 1-06-26 15.13, Jay Walters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You guys wouldn't want to hear my stories... suffice it to say I agree
that
> if you can't understand to edit the properties files by hand you probably
> shouldn't be editing them with a GUI... It can be a checkbox on a feature
> list though and sometimes that is important (even though it feels wrong!-)
Yes We all probably experienced similar stories ... I do believe that one
should educate to the point of understanding ... and to shield some low
level stuff from people using a system ... a UI of high complexity systems
need to deal with behavioural psychology and have to *?* rely on pre
knowledge of its users *!* or could let users get access to the knowledge
needed from the tool itself - that the UI is the facade for ...
--
A modern UI need to deliver ...
Education (smart doc's)
Usability (efficiency)
Empoverment (results)
--
Lets look at the concept of EJB responsibilities that yields portability ...
The Bean Provider (possible user of UI)
The Container Provider (possible user of UI)
The Server Provider (possible user of UI)
The Application Assembler (possible user of UI)
The Deployer (possible user of UI)
The System Administrator (possible user of UI)
--
A system that can be used will be adopted ... and a UI can help ...
with Love
/peter
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