Although I like the concept, I have some questions... 1. If there is a "buy-it" add on that does something, is there any reason someone can't/shouldn't/is discouraged from writing a free version that does the same thing? 2. Who does bug fixes/catch-up migration? Is the source code supposed to be available with the fee? Thanks david jencks On 2001.08.01 12:33:27 -0400 marc fleury wrote: > Sacha, > > you bring up the excellent point that 18 months is a long time in the > software world. Specifically, you want to know if the add-on program will > condemn JBoss to being 18 months behind. > > The answer to this question lies in the distinction between core and > peripheral add-ons. For core add-ons, I intend to set up a committee to > review all add-on proposals, if we consider the proposal feature to be a > core one, the committee will exercise its discretion to ask for an > accelerated contract to revert to LGPL, possibly 6 or 12 months, or they > may > simply view the feature is being too core to be developed through the > add-on > program. In that case, we will decline the potential vendor's proposal > (he > or she is free to go elsewhere) and make arrangements for the feature to > be > developed directly in JBoss. > > The add-on program is more targeted at "peripherals" of JBoss, the UIs, > the > tools, the "automated" deployer, the new fancy web-service that our users > clamor for but we don't have the energy or resources to develop. These > features wouldn't exist without such a program. And people are willing to > pay for them. It is not however targeted at "core" features. JBoss, the > core product will remain absolutely FREE and up to date. > > Regards, > Marc > > |-----Original Message----- > |From: Sacha Labourey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:03 AM > |To: Jboss-Business@Yahoogroups. Com > |Cc: Lawrence E. Rosen > |Subject: [jboss-business] RE: ADD-ON PROGRAM (Please READ) > | > | > |Hello, > | > |While I think that this idea is excellent, IMHO the 18 month > |duration is too > |long. In this quickly moving market, 18 months are a lot! Where > |was JBoss 18 > |months ago? As said, new updated versions of the plugins can re-start a > new > |18 months period. Consequently, I do not see it as a problem to have a > |shorter period (9-12 months). > | > |But maybe there is another strategy behind this. What do plugins > providers > |(Daniel O'Connor for example) think of this period? Would you feel > |"stressed" or unsufficiently compensated by a shorter period? > | > |Cheers, > | > | > | > | Sacha > | > | > | > |> -----Message d'origine----- > |> De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de > marc > |> fleury > |> Envoy� : mercredi, 1 ao�t 2001 16:30 > |> � : Jboss-Business@Yahoogroups. Com; Jboss-Development@Lists. > |> Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists. Sourceforge. Net > |> Cc : Lawrence E. Rosen > |> Objet : [JBoss-dev] ADD-ON PROGRAM (Please READ) > |> > |> > |> Dear Community, > |> > |> You may have heard things about JBoss and the add-on market, you may > have > |> been in touch with me about this subject, this may be the first time > the > |> subject comes to your attention. > |> > |> In brief, independently of JBoss, some of you have been developing > |> proprietary add-ons to JBoss, for individual sale. JBoss's position > |> regarding this development effort is the following: > |> > |> As a whole, we support the add-on development effort. JBoss must > balance > |> two, occasionally competing goals--offering a top quality Open > |> Source Server > |> and rewarding its developers. These two conditions are interdependent > and > |> involve a delicate balancing act, the center of which is compromise. > In > |> simple terms, if a top-quality, Open Source JBoss does not exist, > |> the add-on > |> market is worthless. Similarly, if our developers do not feel > adequately > |> rewarded for their association with JBoss, JBoss the Open Source > |> server will > |> cease to exist in any relevant manner. > |> > |> To the extent to which the add-on effort compensates our developers > for > |> their work, we wholeheartedly support it. In fact, we are developing > the > |> software infrastructure to enable add-on sales from the JBoss site and > we > |> are having our lawyer draw up a legal contract to legally sanction > such > |> retailing. That being said, we remain committed to Open Source. > |> In order to > |> protect the viability of JBoss and to ensure that top-quality > |> code continues > |> to go into JBoss, all add-on developers wishing to sell from our > |site will > |> be required to sign an 18-month clause. > |> > |> In short, this 18 month clause will give JBoss the add-on code in > |> trust for > |> 18 months, during which time JBoss will not be allowed to > |exploit the code > |> in any manner. After 18 months, we will require that the original > add-on > |> code be LGPL licensed. > |> > |> Before you start complaining, I remind you that nothing would > |> prevent any of > |> you from selling an "enhanced, updated" version of your add-on 18 > months > |> later. For the duration of the 18-month contract, we would simply > require > |> patches on the old version of the code in trust, ensuring that it > |> continued > |> to work with the head version of JBoss. This 18-month clause > |also protects > |> you, the developers. Without it, the more relevant and successful your > |> add-on, the higher the risk you run that JBoss would > |> independently write its > |> own version into the Open Source product, thereby obsoleting your > work. > |> > |> This is all about social contract. Yes, you do give up some individual > |> rights to function as part of a community. However, if the community > is > |> successful, the individual members receive advantages greater than > those > |> they could achieve on their own. > |> > |> kind regards, > |> > |> _________________ > |> Marc Fleury, Ph.D > |> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> _________________ > |> > |> > |> _______________________________________________ > |> Jboss-development mailing list > |> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > |> > |> > | > | > |------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > |Secure your servers with 128-bit SSL encryption! Grab your copy of > |VeriSign's FREE Guide: "Securing Your Web Site for Business." 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