Hello Bill, Apologies for not following this up earlier than this but I was going to take a look at the no wait option for select for update operations. First of all is the select for update dynamic? i.e. can I start off in regular mode and then come back and load the same bean in a select for update mode? What I am looking for is simply the option to specify the wait option. May be a <wait-option> flag in jaws.xml to specify this on a per dbms type - in oracle its no wait - not sure what it is called in others. What do you think? Been a while since I've seen any JBoss code! Good to back though! Vinay _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development