If it were a software monopolist/marketing master
website, they would offer the outdated/unmaintained
documentation for free _without any apologies_ and
offer to sell you their documentation like they are
doing you a favor.  They might even allow you to BUY
the outdated documentation.  In either case, much of
it would be accurate.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott M Stark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] /. -> want you to tell about
my fears ....


The book is a complete rewrite of the subjects touched
on by the
online docs with extensive expansion of the material
in all areas.
The model the JBoss Group is moving to is that you get
the server
source for free, including its javadoc. If you want
professional
documentation by the lead developers you will have to
pay for it.
If you want free documentation you will have to rely
on someone
other than the JBoss Group for its development.


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JBoss Group, LLC
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "danch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott M Stark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] /. -> want you to tell about
my fears ....


> I think what he's talking about is the whiny kids
from slashdot seeing 
> the quote below (from the doco.jsp page) and loosing
control of their 
> bowels. How much is common between the current doc
(which gets dumped 
> from CVS nightly still, right?) and the book you're
preparing?
> 
> My impression is that that quote puts a bit of a
pessimistic spin on it. 
> There's a lot of good info in the online version,
and it _does_ get 
> better with age.
> 
> -danch
> 
> Scott M Stark wrote:
> 
> > So if this 400 page book I have in front of me,
which is undergoing
> > author review through Sams and will be released to
Flashline next
> > week doesn't constitute active maintenance, what
does?
> > 
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Scott Stark
> > Chief Technology Officer
> > JBoss Group, LLC
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Peter Sojan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] /. -> want you to tell
about my fears ....
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>Sorry for posting this here, but with Slashdot
raving
> >>about JBoss, once again my concers about
documentation
> >>emerge.
> >>
> >>What will the slashdot masses say if they are
confronted
> >>with the following message:
> >>
> >>" A free volunteer maintained manual was developed
in the
> >>  early stages of JBoss. A more complete and
updated version
> >>  is the for-pay documentation. This version is
now somewhat
> >>  out of date as it is not being as actively
maintained ..."
> >>
> >>Dont forget: those folks are pampered bitches and
if they dont
> >>understand, they WILL leave. I dont want them to
leave, because
> >>I love JBoss and I want to see it prosper in the
future.  
> >>
> >>Being a fact (you can assure yourself by reading
the slashdot
> >>comments) that most of the people even dont know
what J2EE is, it
> >>would be a pity to let all these newbies go.
> >>Ladies and gentlemen, I think this is a big chance
for JBOSS
> >>-> if we can make them stay for a while some will
eventually
> >>start reading. Some of those will eventually start
learning
> >>what JBOSS means and eventually they will start
using it.
> >>What they will learn is not J2EE primarily, but it
would be
> >>JBoss! In a perfect world one year from now JBoss
could be
> >>used synonymous for J2EE ...
> >>
> >>
> >>But with a statement like that above, ... I dont
know!
> >>
> >>Dont get me wrong, as I said before I love JBoss
and if time
> >>permits (when I finished writing my diploma
thesis) I will
> >>do my best to contribute. Maybe I will do the
dirty work and
> >>start with documentation, since I believe this is
of UTMOST
> >>importance to JBoss.
> >>
> >>
> >>now start bashing me ...
> >>Peter
> >>
> >>
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