Andreas Schaefer wrote: > Hi George > > >>The view on the configuration should be task-oriented, not >>file-oriented. >> > > Do you have an example for that ?
> I know BEA WL 5 and > IBM WebSphere 3.5 and both did not provide configuration > on their UI. Both now provide configuration UIs. > > >>It's so easy to understand why a GUI is necessary. And why XML is >>necessary. >> > > When I was working on BEA WebLogic (yes, I was) they had a > usable UI but I still configured the server through the file. Mostly > because the heavy configuration stuff is not added to the UI. WL 5 had a UI whereby you could change things, but did not persist the changes, IIRC. > > A UI makes sense to discover all the services and deployments > and get statistics out of it which JSR-77 should do so. But I am > convinced that configuring a server is advanced stuff and should > not be made too easy otherwise it will break all the time. An > application server is not a volatile system with respect to configuration. Which is a very good reason to have the configuration secured, but not necessarily a good reason to not have a GUI. Do we still provide the (unsecured) JMX web interface as default, as we did in 2.4.x? I don't necessarily see myself as being a big user of a GUI, but I do understand why people really want one - it will cut down the learning curve, and we are getting to the point where some of the people using JBoss are people who program computers for a living, not necessarily because they like it! Also, in a large organization, the people charged with management of servers are not generally programmers persay - they'll knock together a perl script, but a sysadmin who knows Java is rare. A normal sysadmin will look at the xml in JBoss configuration files and suddenly have a fond rememberance of the last time he had to 'correct' a make file for some daemon on one of his boxes. And that's on the Unix side of things - think about NT administrators! > > Have fun - Andy Always! danch _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
