... and he is missing the most importend point - and is in a wondrous
manner right here - with the business jboss group llc is doing, we have
some totaly unequal revenue models then the rest of the industry.

so, we all are srewing up the old economic determinists.

they are not better off than we are.
we are at the very beginning  - they are on the far end.

bax


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Sabrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bill Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "marc fleury"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Jboss-Group@Jboss. Org'"
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Subject: [JBoss-dev] RE: [jboss-group] FW: Sun says Opensource is bad


> I could not agree more!  He is foolish, we give people an entry point
into
> J2EE that is affordable and can rival .Net.  This coupled with
Microsoft new
> licensing policies, should catapult J2EE to the top.  If we are
screwing up
> the revenue model, what is Sun doing by providing Sun One for free?
This is
> something we should ask Mr. Mcneely.  I think he was caught off guard
with
> this question and fumbled the ball.
>
> Ben Sabrin
> Director of Sales and Business Development
> JBoss Group, LLC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Bill Burke
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 1:10 PM
> To: marc fleury; 'Jboss-Group@Jboss. Org'
> Cc: Jboss-Dev
> Subject: RE: [jboss-group] FW: Sun says Opensource is bad
>
>
> Is the RI source-available?  I didn't think it was.
>
> Yeah, McNealy is an idiot.  Even without JBoss, .Net's price point
will
> bring down J2EE revenues.  The difference is, with JBoss, people will
stay
> under the Java/J2EE umbrella.
>
> Bill
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of marc fleury
> > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 7:43 AM
> > To: 'Jboss-Group@Jboss. Org'
> > Cc: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net
> > Subject: [jboss-group] FW: Sun says Opensource is bad
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott McNealy says we are destroying the revenue models of the J2EE
> > marketplace,
> >
> > imbecile, he doesn't even know what is sexy.
> >
> > marcf
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lawrence E. Rosen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:13 PM
> > > To: 'Nathalie Mason'; 'marc fleury'
> > > Subject: FW: Sun says Opensource is bad
> > >
> > >
> > > I just received this today.  /Larry
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:04 PM
> > > > To: Jakarta General List
> > > > Subject: Sun saids Opensource is bad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.oetrends.com/cgi-bin/page_display.cgi?77
> > > >
> > > > And that is why I am glad that jakarta is starting to get
> > > > .Net technologies on
> > > > board.
> > >
> >
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