The problem is not has Sun considers JBoss for-profit because of the 
association with The JBoss Group.  The problem is Sun won't let The 
JBoss Group purchase access to the TDK like any other company.

The won't give it to JBoss and they won't let The JBoss Group buy it, so 
they effectively block opensource from J2EE on a technicality.

Shame on Sun.

-dain

Jules Gosnell wrote:
> AFAIK you are right.
> 
> The license is "free".
> 
> Is Linux somehow not "free" because RedHat sells, distros, support & 
> consultancy on the back of it ?
> 
> Jules
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm... I thought only the JBoss Group services were a for-profit
>> project, whereas the JBoss open source server was a non-profit project.
>> But maybe I am wrong in this distinction?
>>
>>
>> Randahl
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 17. september 2002 10:34
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [JBoss-dev] Sun and Jboss
>>
>> http://java.sun.com/features/2002/09/opn_src_cooper.html
>> TH folowing is from a interview with Danese Cooper posted on
>> java.sun.com
>>
>> Question:
>> JBoss Compatibility
>>  In a recent survey, a lot of developers want to know when Sun will
>> allow JBoss to be branded as compatible with Java technology.
>> Answer:
>>  Yeah, that's a really tough situation. JBoss is an open source project
>> that wants to say they are compatible with J2EE, but they are also a
>> for-profit project, so they can't apply for zero-cost access to the TCKs
>> under the new rules. Recently JBoss launched its own certification
>> program, which is interesting. Open source wisdom says that it's really
>> hard to maintain a fork. It will be interesting to see how they do. I'd
>> really like to see Sun and JBoss work together to find a solution to the
>> problem. They got great coverage at the 2002 JavaOneSM conference --
>> several awards. It's a very popular effort.



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