Sacha Labourey wrote:

>
> You should check this as well:
> http://www.innovation.ch/java/HTTPClient/FAQ.html It is not so big and
> implements tons of http stuff (I will most probably use that for HTTP
> Session clustering automated test suite).

Thanks, I will

>
> BTW, what is the "size" of all these appache libs? What is the size of
> dav4j? What is the license?

From Slide:
webdavlib.jar             107739
commons-httpclient.jar    51384

From dav4j
dav4j.jar                 170598
it's released under IBM's open source license

I plan to go with webdavlib for now and (maybe) switch to a thinner
implementation using just an http library later.

Jeremy

>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> sacha
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de
> > Jeremy Boynes
> > Envoy� : mardi, 10 d�cembre 2002 19:03
> > � : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Objet : RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for changes to URL deployment to clean
> > up netboot
> >
> >
> > I have a prototype of the changes to SARDeployer ready to go. However, I
> > have run into a dependency I don't like.
> >
> > I had originally thought of writing a trivial DAV client but
> had forgotten
> > that HttpURLConnection disallows non-standard request methods
> > such as DAV's
> > PROPFIND. As a result any DAV client needs to implement its own
> > transport -
> > which is no longer quite so trivial :-(
> >
> > I looked at three options:
> > 1) write the transport
> > 2) use the WebDAV client from the Apache Slide project
> >    (this is the basis for the Tomcat implementation)
> > 3) use dav4j
> >    (this is the basis for the Websphere implementation)
> >
> > Which to use depends on if
> sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection is
> > portable across JDK's. If so, it would easy enough to subclass to
> > extend the
> > protocol; this is exactly what dav4j does. However, I'm
> assuming it isn't
> > (portable), which means writing the transport from scratch; this is what
> > Slide did (in the form of commons-httpclient).
> >
> > So, right now the prototype uses the Slide api, making jboss-common
> > dependent on webdavlib and commons-httpclient.
> >
> > Being new here, I wanted to ask which direction I should take:
> > A) Press on with webdavlib and accept the dependency
> > B) Implement our own DAV client using Sun's HttpURLConnection
> (like dav4j)
> > C) Implement our own DAV client with our own transport
> > D) Give up on DAV as a default mechanism and revert to a GET based
> >    protocol (needs server side helpers)
> >
> > I lean toward A) as there are existing dependencies during boot (e.g.
> > getopt, gnu-regexp, log4j) but I realise that adding more is
> undesirable.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jeremy
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Sacha
> > > Labourey
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:18 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for changes to URL
> deployment to clean
> > > up netboot
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Jeremy,
> > >
> > > I did the recent netboot changes to allow for HTTP
> hot-redeployment and
> > > wildcard usage. That was a first step and the usage of WebDAV
> > is a must (I
> > > spoke about this to Greg in Geneva). And I agree, there is an
> > > inconsistency
> > > about the root used for file listing: the current "advanced"
> > mode doesn't
> > > allow for clients to request different configurations from the
> > > same JBossWeb
> > > server. I will send you a very small doco I wrote about the
> > > current status.
> > >
> > > Cool changes.Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > > sacha
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de
> > > > Jeremy Boynes
> > > > Envoy� : dimanche, 8 d�cembre 2002 09:00
> > > > � : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Objet : RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for changes to URL
> > deployment to clean
> > > > up netboot
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Stark wrote:
> > > > > Sounds ok, but let see some more details. Show how you propose
> > > > to rewrite
> > > > > SARDeployer.parseXMLClasspath using this helper framework.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think bbtaining a URLLister should mirror the mechanism for
> > > > obtain a URL
> > > > > protocol handler in that one can install the class that obtains a
> > > > > listing for a given
> > > > > URL via package search paths.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking something like
> > > >
> > > > public abstract class URLLister {
> > > >    /**
> > > >     * Obtain a lister appropriate for the supplied URL.
> > > >     * @param baseUrl the URL to list; should end in "/" but need not
> > > >     */
> > > >    public static URLLister getLister(URL baseUrl)
> > > >       throws UnsupportedProtocolException // or something
> > > >    {
> > > >    }
> > > >
> > > >    /**
> > > >     * Return the URLs of members matching the pattern.
> > > >     * The pattern may contain multiple elements separated by ","
> > > >     * Each element may be a wildcard e.g. "*.jar"
> > > >     * @param pattern a pattern to filter members by
> > > >     * @return a Collection of java.net.URL's containing
> every matching
> > > > member
> > > >     */
> > > >    public abstract Collection listMembers(String pattern);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > but a URLListerFactory with URLLister as an interface is
> > > probably better.
> > > > Either implementation would allow handlers to be plugged in.
> > > >
> > > > Then the big block of code in SARDeployer.parseXMLClasspath
> beginning
> > > >       // jason: This section needs to be rewritten to be non
> > http & file
> > > >       //        specific.  Should probably try to convert to a
> > > URL early.
> > > > through the end of the for loop (lines 359 to 501)
> > > >
> > > > would become something like:
> > > >       // handle "." special - is this necessary?
> > > >       URL baseUrl;
> > > >       if (".".equals(codebase) || "".equals(codebase)) {
> > > >          // use the parent of the location I am deploying
> > > >          baseUrl = new URL(di.url, "..");
> > > >       } else {
> > > >          // resolve codebase URL relative to SERVER_HOME
> > > >          baseUrl = new URL(serverHomeUrl, codebase);
> > > >       }
> > > >
> > > >       if ("".equals(archives)) {
> > > >          // no archives supplied so add the codebase itself
> > > >          classpath.add(baseUrl);
> > > >       } else {
> > > >          // obtain a URLLister for this location
> > > >          URLLister lister = URLLister.getLister(baseUrl);
> > > >          classpath.addAll(lister.listMembers(archives));
> > > >       }
> > > >
> > > > The basic assumption here is that the baseUrl is a
> collection (as per
> > > > RFC2518 (WebDAV)) and hence its members can be listed. The
> > > > implementation of
> > > > URLLister does this in whatever manner is appropriate for the
> > > > protocol; e.g.
> > > > for file: scan the directory (as now) using a FilenameFilter
> > to pattern
> > > > match.
> > > >
> > > > For an http: based lister, the DAV implementation would issue
> > a PROPFIND
> > > > request and filter the response using the search pattern; in the
> > > > future this
> > > > could be extended to use DASL to filter server side. If the
> > > > server supports
> > > > DAV natively, no additional support would be required; if it
> > doesn't, a
> > > > servlet would be used to provide a trivial DAV implementation
> > > using either
> > > > the app context or by reading the server's configs (like
> the JBossWeb
> > > > helper).
> > > >
> > > > The current http: approach, using a listing URL, could
> > migrate to DAV or
> > > > could be a another implementation. However, the details are
> all hidden
> > > > behind URLLister.
> > > >
> > > > This snippet is my thoughts for SARDeployer <classpath> but the
> > > changes to
> > > > URLDeploymentScanner would be similar. It would use a different
> > > method on
> > > > URLLister to return a collection of URLs with properties (e.g.
> > > > last-modified) similar to NetBootFile.
> > > >
> > > > Examples of the special cases are:
> > > > * SARDeployer treats codebase="." as meaning the directory
> containing
> > > >   the unit being deployed; but codebase="lib" is resolved
> relative to
> > > >   SERVER_HOME. This seems inconsistent, at least to me.
> > > > * SARDeployer makes several (6) checks for the "file:" protocol
> > > > * SARDeployer has to handle the special "URL:*" syntax used by
> > > > NetBootHelper
> > > > * NetBootHelper relies on the jboss.netboot.listing.url
> > system property
> > > >   which means all netboot servers involved must use the same
> > mechanism.
> > > >   If this is not defined, it relies on the netboot location
> URL ending
> > > >   in "/files" - see NetBootHelper.getDefaultListUrl()
> > > > * URLDeploymentScanner can't handle dynamic lists off the network -
> > > >   HttpUrlDeploymentScanner must be used instead. This means
> > > >   conf/jboss-service.xml must be modified for netboot (not
> a big deal
> > > >   but it would be nice if configuring netboot was transparent)
> > > >
> > > > And, in general, only file: and http: protocols are supported
> > > (not https:
> > > > even); adding others is not pluggable.
> > > >
> > > > Jeremy
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jeremy Boynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Jboss-Development" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:36 AM
> > > > > Subject: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for changes to URL deployment to
> > > > > clean up netboot
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Wanted to get feedback before starting to implement...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The current support for loading deployment units has several
> > > > > special cases
> > > > > > to deal with loading from the network e.g. in
> > > > > > SARDeployer.parseXMLClasspath(),
> > > > > NetBootHelper.getDefaultListUrl() or even
> > > > > > HttpURLDeploymentScanner itself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to make changes to simplify this and at the same
> > > > time offer
> > > > > > additional flexibility.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The main change would be to factor out the URL listing
> > > > > functionality into
> > > > > > helpers with a factory to create them based on the scheme.
> > > > > Examples would
> > > > > > be:
> > > > > > * file: using java.io.File as now
> > > > > > * http(s): using DAV
> > > > > > * http: using the current listing mechanisms (if still
> applicable)
> > > > > > others could be added as needed (e.g ftp:)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The DAV client would allow JBoss to be netbooted from any
> > web server
> > > > > > supporting DAV, either directly (e.g. Tomcat 4.1,
> > > > Apache+mod_dav or even
> > > > > > IIS) or via a helper servlet (which could read either the
> > > > > content of its war
> > > > > > or config of its host).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This change would isolate the SARDeployer and the
> > > > URLDeploymentScanner's
> > > > > > from the different URL schemes and remove the special cases.
> > > >
> > > >
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