On 2003.04.03 07:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> torsdagen den 3 april 2003 kl 07.32 skrev David Jencks:
> 
> > I'm not sure what your point is, Victor.  The exceptions Scott saw 
> > were a
> > result of a change I made in the last few days to improve the shutdown
> > behavior of the pools, something I've been somewhat worried about 
> > since I
> > wrote them.  The fix was to change the mbean dependency between the 
> > hslq
> > mbean and the datasource mbeans.
> 
> My point being a concern for :  http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ComplexityAsDebt

I'm well aware of this viewpoint and basically agree with it: another
catch-phrase is "LOC spent, not LOC written".  However, please explain how
it is relevant to the refactoring that caused the exceptions to show up.
> 
> > The possible remaining problem is, what happens to connections that are
> > checked out to clients if the db is shut down?  For say Oracle, you 
> > get a
> > lot of dead connections.  For an in-vm java db, it's not clear to me 
> > how to
> > make the shutdown wait until all connections are returned.  This 
> > doesn't
> > have anything to do with hsql AFAIK.
> 
> One could imagine a reconnect policy negotiated from a service state 
> repository.

I can imagine a lot of things, but not how this would provide a reasonable
value/complexity tradeoff over the current situation.

david jencks
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