Thanks.  Had intended to CC that too but I missed.

-Andy

On 11/5/03 11:33 AM, "Bill Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Moved to jboss-dev list.
> 
> Andrew Oliver wrote:
> 
>> The present status is that the SMTP is mostly done and can post messages to
>> JMS (that�s just because I wrote that particular mail listener first).  My
>> vision is that in the short run we'll have a simple MDBean which looks at
>> the message and either writes it to a MailBox (which I envision being an
>> entity bean and later use either Hibernate or Bela's cache thingy).  Why?  I
>> want 200 ms IMAP access (for instance).  Someone else has already
>> contributed a TLS (SSL) implementation.
>> 
>> Eric has written a POP implementation that is awaiting a mailbox
>> abstraction.  (Back to above)
>> 
>> A JBoss client has asked to fund some of that work with their support hours
>> and Eric will be working on the mailbox abstraction, etc shortly.
>> 
>> Once that is complete we have to think through authentication policies.  I
>> favor a rather lame brained pessimistic policy at first which will limit our
>> usefulness in some areas but I don't want to ever stamp something release
>> until we're real secure.
>> 
>> Julien has also contributed something or other, however I didn't really
>> understand that whole thing to be honest (why did we need that over
>> JavaMail?)...
>> 
>> The TLS guy also submitted a non-javamail Mail header implementation.  Why?
>> Because of all stupid things the "InternetHeader" class isn't serializable.
>> 
>> I've got a prototype for the Jboss Console GUI
>> (http://superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?JBossConsole) necessary to
>> set up the Mail Services stuff.  ATM I have to deal with restrictions on the
>> RMI Classloader.  The reason that I consider this related closely to mail
>> services is that in order to provide an "enterprise class" mail server
>> system which is flexible enough for e-support and mail lists and whatever
>> without making the setup as anti-user-friendly as "sendmail.cf", I need to
>> consider it from the start.  Right now the GUI comes up and can categorize
>> "uimanageable=true" MBeans and attempts to get their UI then chokes with a
>> classloader issue.  Anyhow, that�s no biggy, I'll get there.  Once that is
>> done I need to see how to hook into the deployment scanner and tell it "this
>> descriptor is not to be redeployed, here's its new timestamp..."...then I
>> have to figure out how to write descriptors.
>> 
>> Bottom line:
>> 1. Finish out mailbox abstraction
>> 2. MDBean for sending and sorting mail
>> 3. Get authentication policies set up
>> 4. Round out the JBConsole
>> 5. Write IMAP protocol and increase the complexity of the mailbox
>> abstraction (multi-folder)
>> 6. Write a calendar abstraction
>> 7. Exchange protocol
>> 
>> Eric may have some differing viewpoints (I have a funny way of working with
>> people which sometimes looks chaotic, they go a direction, I go a direction
>> then we meet up with the best tech winning).  Hopefully he'll offer them up
>> and round this out.  Better yet...maybe he'll start on the wiki:
>> http://superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?action=edit&id=MailServicesF
>> orJBoss -- it puts the lotion in the bucket or it gets the hose.
>> 
>> With two contiguous months I could get the mail server rounded out (at least
>> 1-4).  I'll probably need the most help for 7.  I've actually done some work
>> on 5 before for JAMES so no biggy.
>> 
>> How's that?
>> 
>> 
>> -Andy
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/4/03 1:41 PM, "Bill Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Don't you have somebody helping you on JBMail?  Can you ping him and CC
>>> me on the status of it?
>>> 
>>> Bill
>> 
>> 
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