In this thread Jae points his finger at the biggest remaining challenge we will need 
to overcome to get to a pure-CMP Nukes: we need to identify the remaining tricky 
subtle bugs in JBoss CMP itself, and get the appropriate JBoss CMP gurus to fix them. 

Nukes is a prime real-world test suite against which JBoss CMP will have to measure up.

There is still some gap to be crossed before JBoss CMP (and indeed JBoss AS) can live 
up to the promise of transparent persistence that we have been working towards for the 
past half decade --- but the good news is that the gap is quite narrow compared to 
what it was just a short time ago.

After I started advocating the vision of pure-CMP for Nukes  ~4 months ago, I began to 
realize it would be quite a long process. Frankly, I am very impressed with the 
movement so far -- I didn't dream that anybody would even think about tackling 
pure-CMP for the Nukes core prior to 1.1 coming out! My hat is off to Jae for taking 
the baton and really running with it, and making so much progress.

Now we are at the stage where we really do need some key help from the wider JBoss 
community outside of Nukes... but we are also almost at the stage where we can give 
them something really juicy in return:


"Sacha Labourey" wrote : Julien,
  | 
  | Do we have a xxx.war or xxx.sar standalone version that people can simply download 
and drop in any jboss instance? That is what people need I guess, is this available 
for download?
  | 
  | Cheers,
  | 
  | sacha

What Sacha is requesting can only be provided if we complete a pure-CMP solution. 

(perhaps Sacha might even make it a priority to get us what we need so that we can 
more quickly push this over the top  ;-) ;-) )

After that, we still have another major phase to accomplish before we can really say 
we have a pure-CMP solution: we have to transform the current "installer" (and it's 
large number of associated setup.xml and other files) into quite a different animal. 
(After my current travels, when I get settled down in later July, I plan on developing 
& committing a good chunk of the design & code needed to make that happen.) 


-- Howard




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