On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 08:39, Scott M Stark wrote:
> I'm not following. aop and xb are no brainer standalone projects that
> should not be in the jbossas cvs module alias by default. ws and ejb3
> probably need to be refactored into standalone modules and a server
> integration module which can be included in jbossas. 
> 

Yes, because WS and EJB3 use the same codebase to target different
JBossAS releases. Bill already has some compatibility code
to try to deal with this in EJB3.

> I'm not advocating chaos in head because its a good thing. We just need
> to get to a point where getting this fixed is a priority, and be willing
> to live with some breakage to get there. If it needs a phased approach,
> that is fine. What do you suggest?
> 

I was advocating the same JFDI (Just *#&^ Do It) 
approach with my "byte with bullet" comment. :-)

I was just pointing out the potential problems it may cause people
in terms of current development during the transition.

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Brock 
> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:15 AM
> > To: Scott M Stark
> > Cc: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; QA
> > Subject: RE: Ongoing build changes: was RE: [JBoss-dev] On 
> > the edgeoftheMaven cliff
> > 
> > Ironically, one of the problems I am trying to solve will be 
> > made worse by this approach.
> > 
> > That is the number of projects that are really standalone but 
> > are developed in head alongside the application server code. 
> > e.g. AOP, JBossXB, JBossWS, EJB3
> > 
> > They need a useable head branch, even if nobody seems to be 
> > paying too much attention to all the testsuite failures.
> > 
> > I agree with that we shouldn't do anything to the production 
> > branches until we have validated everything in head.
> > 
> > On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 07:56, Scott M Stark wrote:
> > > Part of the problem is everyone running around trying to 
> > get work done 
> > > on multiple branches while Ruel is trying to baby step new build 
> > > setups in. I think we need to get to a point where we just 
> > say head is 
> > > going to be refactored and potentially broken for an 
> > extended period 
> > > of time while we refactor it for:
> > > 
> > > - build structure
> > > - module coarseness and invalid dependencies (like the 
> > server/security
> > > issue)
> > > - refactoring for integration api introduction
> > > 
> > > The production branches have to remain stable during this.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Adrian Brock
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:43 AM
> > > > To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Cc: QA
> > > > Subject: RE: Ongoing build changes: was RE: [JBoss-dev] 
> > On the edge 
> > > > oftheMaven cliff
> > > > 
> > > > We already have a task for it
> > > > http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBBUILD-58
> > > > 
> > > > But I don't believe anybody has really looked at what it 
> > will take 
> > > > in general.
> > > > 
> > > > My comments on the issue in the forums are mainly based on what I 
> > > > remember seeing when I was fixing other things.
> > > > 
> > > > None of the JIRA tasks contain a link to these discussions.
> > > > Which is my fault. :-(
> > > > 
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> > JBoss Inc.
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> > 
> > 
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