| Whether these components are shipped with the AS binary 
| distribution is one aspect, 

was already agreed: jbpm will not be in the jboss download.

| whether they have automated 
| integration tests is another. The latter is a MUST.

was already agreed.

| Our testsuite has the ability to create specialized jboss 
| configurations, start/stop these configurations and run tests 
| in those configurations.

Currently we are working on creating such a configuration in
testsuite/build-thirdparty.xml.  I still have to take a closer look into
the jboss test suite(s?). 
 
| Every component that is expected to work in the AS should 
| have automated integration tests. An integration test is a 
| test that checks whether stuff that you depend on works in 
| the way you expect. How you setup fuctional tests for your 
| component is up to you.

agreed as well.

regards, tom.
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: Thomas Diesler 
| Sent: zaterdag 25 maart 2006 9:44
| To: Alejandro Guizar; Chris Laprun; Tom Baeyens
| Cc: Julien Viet; Dev - JBossWS; 
| jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net
| Subject: RE: wsrp integration
| 
| > [...]/jbpm/bpel and [...]/portal/wsrp seem fine to me
| 
| Yes, that's fine.
| 
| > neither Portal nor jBPM is an integral component of the Appserver.
| 
| Whether these components are shipped with the AS binary 
| distribution is one aspect, whether they have automated 
| integration tests is another. The latter is a MUST.
| 
| Our testsuite has the ability to create specialized jboss 
| configurations, start/stop these configurations and run tests 
| in those configurations.
| 
| Every component that is expected to work in the AS should 
| have automated integration tests. An integration test is a 
| test that checks whether stuff that you depend on works in 
| the way you expect. How you setup fuctional tests for your 
| component is up to you.
| 
|  Cheers
| -thomas
| 
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Alejandro Guizar
| > Sent: 24 March 2006 19:56
| > To: Thomas Diesler; Chris Laprun
| > Cc: Julien Viet; Dev - JBossWS
| > Subject: RE: wsrp integration
| > 
| > Thomas,
| > 
| > I saw a WSRP folder under 
| testsuite/src/main/org/jboss/test/webservice 
| > and testsuite/src/resources/webservice and thought the 
| place for BPEL 
| > integration tests should also be there.
| > 
| > Does your comment imply that both the WSRP and BPEL tests should be 
| > placed elsewhere? If so, what is your suggestion? 
| [...]/jbpm/bpel and 
| > [...]/portal/wsrp seem fine to me, except that neither 
| Portal nor jBPM 
| > is an integral component of the Appserver.
| > 
| > -Alejandro
| > 
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Thomas Diesler
| > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:54 AM
| > > To: Chris Laprun
| > > Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS
| > > Subject: RE: wsrp integration
| > >
| > >
| > > The WSRP integration testsuite would probably also have 
| integration
| > tests
| > > other than for jbossws.
| > >
| > > -thomas
| > >
| > >
| > > >-----Original Message-----
| > > >From: Thomas Diesler
| > > >Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:52
| > > >To: Chris Laprun
| > > >Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS
| > > >Subject: RE: wsrp integration
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >>But these tests would still be located in the 
| webservice testsuite 
| > > >>though, right?
| > > >
| > > >No, WSRP is just another jbossws client and should have its own 
| > > >integration testsuite.
| > > >
| > > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > > >Thomas Diesler
| > > >Web Service Lead
| > > >JBoss Inc.
| > > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >>-----Original Message-----
| > > >>From: Chris Laprun
| > > >>Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:48
| > > >>To: Thomas Diesler
| > > >>Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS
| > > >>Subject: Re: wsrp integration
| > > >>
| > > >>
| > > >>On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Thomas Diesler wrote:
| > > >>
| > > >>> IMHO, you need to identify the integration requirements and
| > > >>create for
| > > >>> these aspects in the main test suite. WSRP functional
| > > >aspects do not
| > > >>> need to be tested in the main testsuite.
| > > >>
| > > >>I agree.
| > > >>
| > > >>> A practical approach would be to create tests when issues 
| > > >>> actually occur. i.e. you run your wsrp testsuite with 
| jbossws, 
| > > >>> for
| > > >>every issue
| > > >>> you see you create a test in the wsrp integration testsuite.
| > > >>
| > > >>Makes sense in the shorter term. However, complete 
| coverage would 
| > > >>be ideal in the long run both for WS and WSRP.
| > > >>
| > > >>> There should be a tests-wsrp target in the testsuite 
| that runs 
| > > >>> the collection of integration tests. wsrp integration tests do
| > > >>not belong
| > > >>> in the webservice testsuite. i.e. should not run as part of 
| > > >>> tests-webservice
| > > >>
| > > >>But these tests would still be located in the 
| webservice testsuite 
| > > >>though, right?
| > > >>
| > > >>Best,
| > > >>Chris
| > > >>
| > > >>==
| > > >>JBoss Portal Developer / WSRP Architect
| > > >>
| > > >>
| > > >>
| > > >>
| 


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