it makes me weep man
we are the good guys
thank you Sandeep...

thank you

marc


-----Original Message-----
From: Rickard �berg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 11:30 PM
To: Xavier Faure; marc fleury
Subject: FW: Re: Open-Source or Developers-Edition J2EE App Server
advice


Hey

And this also came to EJB-INTEREST yesterday. Even more interesting
reading.

We're the good guys :-)

/R

----

>>I am getting ready to start a project and I will need a good J2EE App
>>Server for development.  Can any of you give me some pro's and/or con's
>> some of the free development solutions available?


There are several open source J2EE servers available round the place:

I'll start off by mentioning OpenEJB, but I'll also point out that its
essentially an advanced "container system" and not a complete
full-fledged
J2EE server, runnable out of the box - or the tar.gz if you prefer ;-)
But
if you want to know how to use it check it up at www.openejb.org

I'm terrible at reviews, so I'll skip that, but I suggest that you look
up
these,

1) The Orion App Server - (www.orionserver.com) - This one's been around
for
some time and the development version is FREE. Same thing if you're into
non-commercial deployment. Commercial licenses cost $1500, buts that
cheap
by today's standards. Deployment is also easy once you get used to it -
its
got auto-deploy, which makes things simple.

2) JBoss (www.jboss.org) - personally, this is my favorite - so my
opinions
on this one are biased. Architecture-wise, JBoss is really a cool
proposition - it's design is extremely modular - and it at the cutting
edge
of EJB tech today. Its got SO many rad concepts  inside it that your
mind
will boggle. Plus, its the only one that's been GPLed. I don't know
about
the rest of you out there, but I feel REAL SAFE with GPL. Plus the user
and
developer community are very, very friendly. Check out
http://conferences.oreilly.com/java/news/ejboss_0300.html for an
O'Reilly
interview with the JBoss top two. These guys have come out with ideas
that
have influenced lots of other app server designs.

3) Bullsoft's (think they're Evidian now) JOnAS (www.bullsoft.com/ejb)-
OK,
this is a good one. I've never used it, but its pretty popular in the
open
source world.

4) Allaire Jrun 3.0 (www.allaire.com) - I haven't used the 3.0 version,
that's the one that's actually got EJB support, but I've used most of
the
versions before that, and its very easy to work with. It integrates well
with web servers, like IIS, Apache, NES etc, so if you're going to do
web
development on these, this is worth checking out.

5) Enhydra (www.enhydra.org) - This one's supposedly got some great
clustering support. I guess its worth checking out. I'm not too sure how
enhydra.org and lutris.com relate to each other. The way it I figure it
out
- Enhydra was open-sourced to make it more poplular and robust.
Enhydra's on
a FreeBSD license, so I guess its safe to use it for development at
least.
:-)

<<<< For all you GPL advocates out there, I'll recommend "JBoss". I
think
its gonna go *places*. >>>>

This is not a comprehensive list, but the ones that are quite popular
these
days, and that aren't a pain in the neck to work with.


But I definitely suggest that you take a look at :

http://www.flashline.com/components/appservermatrix.jsp, it's an pretty
uptodate and accurate listing of popular app servers.

Hope this helps!


Sandeep Dath

--
Rickard �berg

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