I agree that any sensible design of a tool like this really ought to be an
entirely separate component - JMX based I imagined. I hadn't thought about
stateless session beans; I think in either case, JAWS would have to be
modified so the UI could get the info it needs. I've got some further bits I
want to add to the prototype, in particular adding rows and this particular
form, although crude, is simple enough that I can do it though I'm a
newcomer to the jBoss architecture.

I'd be happy to move this into a separate component once I've come to a
better understanding of the architecture and once I've fulfilled my existing
commitment to writing some developer documentation. In the meanwhile code
and screenshots are available from me and I'll try to get them put up onto
my website as well.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Forder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, September 03, 2000 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [jBoss-User] Visual JAWS prototype


>Andy Dwelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>
>>I've hacked together a prototype version of JAWSPersistenceManager that
>>allows a user to interact directly with the database back end, and see
>>what's in various tables and how jBoss is interacting with it. It also
>>allows the user to drop tables and delete individual rows (non-compound
PKs
>>only right now). I find this useful during entity bean development because
>>I'm stuck on an NT development environment and it has problems getting the
>>correct date on files, causing difficulties for redeployment.  This visual
>>JAWS class allows me to get the database into a sensible state for testing
>>my clients and seeing what they make JAWS do.
>>
>>The prototype is extremely crude and wildly inefficient, I've absolutely
no
>>doubt that there are all sorts of of entity beans that will simply make it
>>crash and burn.
>>
>>However, there may be the core of a useful plugin here although it needs
>>considerable refactoring, it should probably be a separate component from
>>JAWS or a subclass or something.
>>
>>I'd be happy to send out the code to anyone who's interested although I've
>>badly mangled the original which was authored by Rickard berg.
>>
>>Mail me for screenshots or the source.
>
>Andy
>
>Thanks for emailing me the code. Putting a GUI in server code isn't
>really the way we want to go, but at the same time we are very aware
>that tool support is needed for ad-hoc DB queries, setting up tables,
>etc.
>
>There was some discussion of this back in April/May - see Bug #3 in
>Bugzilla. Unfortunately, nothing has been implemented.
>
>Some of the original discussion revolved around using a servlet to do
>this. Personally, I think a stateless session bean would be the way to
>go. You've already put a lot of work into the user interface - would you
>be interested in having a go at turning it into a remote client of a
>stateless session bean?
>
>regards
>
>   Justin
>
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