Robert, this group is built around taking Rickard prototypes "further". So
no you are not off-base in proposing a separate project of jboss. If you
ever wanted to join us in your effort and contribute on the simple doclet
approach let us know, we will gladly kick that off.
marc
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 5:46 AM
> To: jBoss
> Subject: Re: [jBoss-User] OffTopic: EJBDoclet v0.2 available
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> <lurker-comment>
> Is this just a small utility to help people get started or are there any
> plans to grow this into a major code generation tool? If it's the latter
> I'd like to make a few comments you may or may not use in taking this a
> step further. About a year ago we (my company) saw the possibilities in
> generating entity bean code from java bean classes and deploymen t
> descriptors (for JOnAS at the time) because it's so obvious and easy to
> do (we did it with reflection, the javadoc way is better, of course) and
> saves tons of time and unnecessary bugs. When that was done it became
> obvous that what we we're really doing was generate code from a
> model with
> relationships (we implemented bean relationships using the lazy loading
> pattern (thanks again for your tip, rickard, worked great ;-) based on
> minformation in our bean classes. once you have that model you
> see that you
> can use that for so much more (generating sql if you don't have that
> already, generate a swing ui with treeviews and JLists for n-m and 1-n
> relationship editing, generate session bean facades as a service layer to
> the entity beans etc.). we came up with a dtd that described the
> model and
> specified the model in xml and went so far that once you had your
> model in
> place you started the code generation process and the result was a
> deployable j2ee test application with a running swing client that
> communicates via a rmi-http-tunneling with the service layer.
> based on that
> we implemented a number of projects and still are very happy with that
> approach (currently using orion as our j2ee platform). for code
> generation
> we use webmacro as a template language because we felt that the
> ability to
> do some amount of java-based scripting in the templates is really
> handy and
> very powerful (if used carefully enough to not screw up maintainability).
> as a model to describe the data we decided on an ER-Model because it's
> quite simple and we always work with RDBMSs anyway.
>
> my point is, that what you're doing with your doclet is really generating
> code from a model which can be used in a more powerful way, if
> not doing it
> too EJB-centric.
>
> the code we produced is not clean enough or general purpose to
> make it open
> source (typical in house under pressure rapid prototyping stuff). just
> thought the experience we made with this type of approach might be worth
> taking into consideration as we have brought a few real world projects in
> production with that. at the moment we are reimplementing a
> cleaner version
> of this (using a schema a more modular architecture and some
> better coding
> practices). If this sound interesting to you we may have
> something to take
> a look at a few weeks from now. however, if you think that your
> very useful
> piece of code was never meant to start a subproject or this kind of
> discussion, never mind ;-).
>
> </lurker-comment>
>
> regards,
>
> robert
>
>
> >That would be seriously cool I think, since it would allow *zero-effort*
> >translation of existing database tables into EntityBeans!!
> >
> >What do you think? Interested? :-)))
> >
> >regards,
> > Rickard
> >
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