[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 > On Oct 18, Aaron Mulder quoth:
[snip]
 > I would implore anyone interested in this topic to go back and read the
 > back and forth Tom White and I had on this very issue a couple of weeks
 > ago.  Offering a default ID service in jboss isn't a simple "yeah we
 > should have that" type decision.  There is no "right" answer to this
 > question and by providing a solution in the distribution you will be
 > endorsing a specific solution that will be used without the developer
 > considering it's applicability.

Cook.  Tom Cook.

 > I fully support the notion of people writing database specific mbeans (or
 > whatever) to provide this functionality but think it would be a Bad
 > Idea(tm) to provide it in the distribution. Encourage people to build
 > appropriate solutions for different problems rather than a
 > one-solution-fits-all in the distribution.  Then provide a FAQ reference
 > so people can fetch the Postgre or Oracle, integer or long, standalone or
 > clustered, A or B, this or that version of the mbean as is
 > appropriate.

Agree with you there.

 > A primary key service *is* appropriate for the container but it is *not*
 > appropriate for the container manufacturer.  Such a decision is very
 > application and domain specific.

Also if you make jboss provide the keys for _all_ applications then
you loose the association between the data and the mechanism which
ensures it's consistency.  Now a non-ejb app can't use the same
mechanism.  People should design key generators for their apps.

Tom


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