Ciao,
I'll have to agree with Scot here. I have been
impressed with the knowledge and response to my
queries. I have not always gotten the answers in the
way I thought I would/should, but there have always
been very helpful people on the list and I always get
my answer.
Another big strength here is source code. You may not
be a source code kind of guy, but I think it is very
good to have. Will BEA or IBM send you there source?
Ha! If so, for how much? And if in a pipe dream they
did send it, would licensing permit you to change it
and ship the fixes/enhancements? Hee, hee, hee!
I don't want to lose the point of this thread however.
A 20% difference over WL is awesome. As we say in the
US: "never look a gift horse in the mouth." But if you
do, there's a lot to be impressed by this "gift horse"
cuz it could win the derby! Not to mention that you
can redeploy changes to your EJBs in development about
10:1 over WL. Hmmmm.
Question Darius: Could the 20% difference be due to WL
overhead in authentication and method invocation
authorization that perhaps jboss is not doing? Could
you help our man Edward with is security woes? I know
WL security but not jboss, yet.
Vaughn
From: Scot Bellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Block
address
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 15:24:13 GMT
Subject: RE: [jBoss-User] JBoss against Weblogic - 1:0
To: jBoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-to: "jBoss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Add Addresses
But don't forget that a company could come along, just
as Lutris did
for
Enhydra, that charges a reasonable fee for support and
other services.
As far as the documentation, just because Weblogic and
Websphere has
more, doesn't mean it is any better! I have struggled
through the
thousands of pages of documentation for both of those
products. I'll
take jBoss and this mail list over both of them any
day!!
As far as getting questions answered, I agree that
sometimes there is
not
a timely response. But then again, I have worked for
companies that
have
paid thousands of dollars for support and have
received poorer support
than I get on this mailing list. Hopfully someone
will answer your
question soon (I'm not a security expert).
Scot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 12/4/00, 8:05:29 AM, "Kenworthy, Edward"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding
RE: [jBoss-User]
JBoss
against Weblogic - 1:0:
> That's interesting because we're considering doing
exactly the same
thing.
> However I fully expect our bigger clients to choose
Weblogic (or
Websphere),
> for two reasons:
> 1) Documentation and support. To say jBoss
documentation is
incomplete is
an
> understatement ! And support is entirely dependent
on the whim of
the,
> voluntary, developers. If they don't want to answer
a question then
you
not
> going to get one. (I cite my query re security as an
example).
> 2) Responsibility. If you pay �15K per cpu for a
piece of software
there
is
> the expectation (realistic or not is irrelevant)
that there is
"someone",
in
> the case of WLS it's BEA, you can shout out.
> That said, I expect jBoss will be very popular with
companies taking
their
> first steps, perhaps looking at a relatively modest
number of users
where
> the price of commercial offerings just kills them
dead. But as they
grow
I
> would expect them to migrate to commercial
offerings. (I don't think
anyone
> would care to risk a 20,000 company critical system
to jBoss just
yet. At
> least BEA and IBM have lots of experience of "this
kind of system".)
> But then the other way of looking at it is - its an
opportunity.
Perhaps
> someone here (me even!) will setup the jBoss
equivalent of Red Hat in
order
> to offer that kind of support, and comfort, to the
big users.
> Edward
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darius Davidavicius
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 December 2000 09:33
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [jBoss-User] JBoss against Weblogic - 1:0
> Hi all,
> On Friday i started my project under jBoss before it
was running
under
> Weblogic
> The results:
> 1. Average performance is better about 20% using
JBoss.
> I do tested automatic email responce system. One
EMail is processed
abount
> in 270 ms (120ms finder acccording the list of
rules, 150ms some
bussiness
> logic). Test done under Windows NT4, Oracle 8i, BMP
entity beans +
Session
> beans.
> 2. Client login should be changed. As u know
Weblogic using realms
and if
> you want to use JBoss something new (maybe session
Bean for
loggining)
> should
> be implemented.
> I like it because i have using ANT and have changed
my Build.cmd in
such
way
> i can compile JBoss or Weblogic versions now
customers can select
> wanted application server and if we compare price
for JBoss for
Weblogic
I
> bet we know the sellection :)
> D&D
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