Hi all,
OK, call me a grouch if you want, but I think this thread is stretching
the bounds of what is "acceptable noise" in a jboss mailing list. This
is an excellent list for high quality discussion on jboss-related areas
and I've been really impressed by the information that has been
available in the past and by how much I've been able to learn from
passively listening in to the discussions. The quality and speed of
reply when I've had some problems and have posted a question has been
amazing and I'm very grateful to the guys who've obviously worked so
hard on jboss and still take so much time to out provide such excellent
support -
I'm also quite happy to accept that as JBoss becomes more widely used
(obviousry a good thing), the number of posts which are asking very
basic questions is likely to increase. That's OK by me, even when it's
obvious that they haven't taken 5 minutes to try to solve the problem
themselves, or read the first page of the docs/spec, or considered
looking through the archives, or thought about the fact that getting
tomcat connected to apache isn't even remotely related to jboss (OK,
I'm lying, it irritates the hell out of me :-).
Even discussions on favourite editors for EJB development have passed
me by (more junk along "Hey, I still use vi and it does me fine"
lines). But mail clients! Jeez! Try looking up deja news or something.
There must be thousands of outlook vs Netscape vs whatever discussions
out there. I don't think it's too much to ask not to have to read them
here too.
Mailing lists like this rely on the people I mentioned above giving up
their time to help out and it takes time to read through the daily
traffic in the list. If the ratio of trivial posts gets high enough
then they're less likely to make the effort, and the situation just
gets worse - and we end up like the tomcat-user mailing list where
there are loads of questions and very few answers worth reading. Most
useful information I ever get on tomcat comes from the struts mailing
list. This is the *only* jboss-user list there is and I would hate to
see it go the same way. And of courses I suspect that Rickard's
consultancy fee will be rather high, so I'd prefer to keep him in the
list as much as possible :-).
Hope this doesn't sound too grumpy but I genuinely feel that it's
important to maintain a reasonably high "signal-to-noise" ratio if
lists like this are to remain viable.
Luke.
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