Hey,

Let's use JBossSecurity or JBossJAAS for that :-)

Russian security service agent Oleg

On Wednesday 24 January 2001 02:38, marc fleury wrote:
> I while we are at it we need
>
> JBossSS for "Security System"
>
>
> marc
>
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marc fleury
> |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:13 PM
> |To: jBoss
> |Subject: RE: [jBoss-User] RE: [JBossCMP] RE: [jBoss-Dev] Name
> | change
> |
> ||Hey,
> ||
> ||Let's use JBossConnector. It would be more clear for everybody.
> |
> |hey, before we let the Russians decide on brading :) we better get
> | the opinion of the resident marketing dudes...
> |
> |what do you say guys (vaughn or edwin :)
> |
> |JBossConnector
> |Descriptive
> |
> |JBossJCA
> |Descriptive too but with "standard J2EE API name", a bit of a
> | no-no, SUN does have a copyright on the full API.
> |
> |JBossJCX
> |Ok but confusing? (isn't some name of some connector file format?)
> |
> |JBossK2
> |well, he he, you know for the Kool faKtor
> |
> |
> |marc
> |
> ||Oleg
> ||
> ||On Tuesday 23 January 2001 23:16, marc fleury wrote:
> ||> yeah which is why I said JBossJCX, is JCX a spec name I dont'
> ||> think so...
> ||>
> ||> or JBossK2 for Konnectors ya know?
> ||>
> ||> marc
> ||>
> ||> |-----Original Message-----
> ||> |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ||> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DeSouza,
> ||> | Edwin Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:56 PM
> ||> |To: 'marc fleury'; DeSouza, Edwin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ||> |Cc: jBoss; jBoss Developer; Jbosscmp@Kpi. Com. Au
> ||> |Subject: [JBossCMP] RE: [jBoss-Dev] Name change
> ||> |
> ||> |
> ||> |Marc,
> ||> |Since you are not using any Sun acronyms in any module
> ||> | names....you probabaly want to call it JBossConnectors or
> ||> | something else but not JBossJCA.
> ||> |
> ||> |Edwin.
> ||> |
> ||> |-----Original Message-----
> ||> |From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> ||> |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:04 PM
> ||> |To: DeSouza, Edwin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ||> |Cc: jBoss; jBoss Developer; Jbosscmp@Kpi. Com. Au
> ||> |Subject: RE: [jBoss-Dev] Name change
> ||> |
> ||> |
> ||> |ok ok
> ||> |
> ||> |I hear your prayers...
> ||> |
> ||> |the equivalent of "release often, release early" in marketing
> ||> | :)
> ||> |
> ||> |marc
> ||> |
> ||> |PS: so guys we are adding the JBossJCA project with the
> ||> | others, it is the connector stuff that is being discussed
> ||> | right now on CMP. It probably belongs on our lists for now,
> ||> | separate module in cvs (isn't it already the case toby?).
> ||> |
> ||> ||-----Original Message-----
> ||> ||From: DeSouza, Edwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> ||> ||Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:01 PM
> ||> ||To: 'marc fleury'; DeSouza, Edwin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ||> ||Subject: RE: [jBoss-Dev] Name change
> ||> ||
> ||> ||
> ||> ||Marc,
> ||> ||I would recommend that you make JCA separate now.  That will
> ||> || help it gain momentum...
> ||> ||
> ||> ||Please ;-)
> ||> ||
> ||> ||
> ||> ||Edwin.
> ||> ||
> ||> ||
> ||> ||
> ||> ||-----Original Message-----
> ||> ||From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> ||> ||Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:25 AM
> ||> ||To: DeSouza, Edwin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ||> ||Subject: RE: [jBoss-Dev] Name change
> ||> ||
> ||> |||-----Original Message-----
> ||> |||From: DeSouza, Edwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> ||> |||Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:18 AM
> ||> |||To: 'marc fleury'; DeSouza, Edwin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ||> |||Subject: RE: [jBoss-Dev] Name change
> ||> |||
> ||> |||
> ||> |||Yes, JBossSS sounds good.
> ||> |||
> ||> |||Also, you need:
> ||> |||-- Something for Servlets (JBossServelet, JBossTomcat....)
> ||> |||-- Something for JSP
> ||> ||
> ||> ||OK
> ||> ||
> ||> |||-- Something for JCA (This will be very important soon...the
> ||> ||| world does have
> ||> |||legacy systems....JBossConnectors)
> ||> ||
> ||> ||yes that is on the radar.  The first code is being commited,
> ||> || if it catches on we will spin off.
> ||> ||
> ||> |||You are making the right moves ;-)
> ||> ||
> ||> ||I should have said that we need more of you.  JBoss has been
> ||> || a "developer dream" it now needs to be marketed in full
> ||> || force.  I was an
> ||> |
> ||> |evangelist with
> ||> |
> ||> ||SUN micro in my past, so I know how to sell technology to
> ||> || some extent.  Keep
> ||> ||the ideas coming, specifically if you could help us with the
> ||> || layout of the website and where we need to work that would
> ||> || be great.
> ||> ||
> ||> ||I have taken a look at JOnAS' website recently and I was
> ||> || impressed.  The technology sucks but they say the right
> ||> || words and it looks very professional, I like the
> ||> || 'references' (we do have some so I will put them up).  We
> ||> || must do the same and that means a somewhat improved website.
> ||> ||
> ||> ||:)
> ||> ||
> ||> ||marc
> ||> ||
> ||> |||Edwin
> ||> |||
> ||> |||
> ||> |||
> ||> |||
> ||> |||-----Original Message-----
> ||> |||From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> ||> |||Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:20 PM
> ||> |||To: DeSouza, Edwin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ||> |||Subject: RE: [jBoss-Dev] Name change
> ||> |||
> ||> |||
> ||> |||Hello Edwin...
> ||> |||
> ||> |||thank you :) no thank you!
> ||> |||
> ||> |||so anyway
> ||> |||
> ||> ||||Still recommend a couple of modules (I know you said
> ||> |||| naa....) : -- JBossEJB
> ||> |||
> ||> |||JBossEJB yes we thought about it.  The real reason we said
> ||> ||| nah... is that SUN claims they have a copyright on 'EJB'
> ||> ||| which we don't know if they really
> ||> |||have.  Whatever, no need to piss SUN off plus we don't think
> ||> ||| it is yet "just
> ||> |||a container" ;-)
> ||> |||
> ||> ||||-- JBossJMX
> ||> |||
> ||> |||Well there, the issue is that we don't do much on top of
> ||> ||| SUN's JMX so why call it that way in the first place :)
> ||> |||
> ||> |||No, same as above it is all integrated in the "server".
> ||> |||
> ||> |||Also following your good teachings :) the next thing we are
> ||> |
> ||> |going to focus
> ||> |
> ||> |||on is promoting JMX :) as the "JBoss" server.
> ||> |||
> ||> ||||These can belong to JBossServer.
> ||> ||||
> ||> ||||Also, you really need a module for Security.  Don't know
> ||> |||| what
> ||> |
> ||> |to call it.
> ||> |
> ||> ||||Maybe JBossJAAS.
> ||> |||
> ||> |||Yes I fully agree there, it was a total oversight, my bad...
> ||> |||
> ||> |||JBossSS ?
> ||> |||
> ||> |||marc
> ||> |||
> ||> ||||Overall, good moves btw.
> ||> ||||
> ||> ||||Edwin.
> ||> |
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