--On Sunday, February 25, 2001 3:43 PM +0100 Ole Husgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The point I was trying to make with
> that last comment is that the large
> user base of JBoss helps making JBoss
> robust.
> We simply cannot test JBoss in any
> possible configuration, under any
> possible operating system, with any
> possible Java VM.
> Here the feedback from users having
> problems with particular setups
> is extremely important.
> JBoss is system-level software, and
> to be useful system-level software
> _must_ be robust. Bug-free is IMHO
> not enough.
This is an extremely important point. Its not possible for the jBoss
developers to test jBoss under all op systems on all platforms with all
database engines and so on and so on...
Currently, I think no one but a developer can report a bug. The code base
is in rapid flux (which I see is a good thing most of the time) and this
makes it impossible for a user to report a bug. How would someone do this?
"On the CVS trss from February 20th I saw this bug and can repordice it in
this way..."
Thats less than ideal. By the time the bug is reported the CVS tree is
different. Marc has said that after 2.1 he will go to tagged releases. I
would suggest that tagged betas for the 2.1 are a good idea as well. This
way, if a user reports a bug against a particular beta version, a jBoss
developer can rebuild that version to reporduce the bug and fix it.
Also, increased use of Bugzilla might be a help. For example, the Orion
team aggressively uses Bugzilla for bug tracking. If a user finds a bug
they can report it in bugzilla against a particular Orion build. Other
users then can check bugzilla to see if the problem they are having is a
known bug. Orion team checks bugzilla and marks the bug as valid or not,
then makes an entry after they fix it about what release the fix will
appear in. This all works out great.
This all sounds like a lot of work, but I think it would save work for both
jBoss developers and users. I know as a user I would be happy to make
entries into Bugzilla if I find a reproducable bug. jBoss developers would
know that a bug exists and is being worked on by someone else and users
would know what problems exist and are already reported. Also, I think
jBoss developers would get a lot more feedback this way, improving the
product overall.
Just my (admittedly unsolicited) two cents worth.
Jim
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