Thanks - I will try your suggestion of using transient in a couple of places.  
If I had a remote idea of what was throwing the exception I would show it.  
However, not one of my classes is in the stack trace.  Which means it has be to 
something in the conversation I am using.  I do use a logging field on a lot of 
my entity/sfsb classes of the form:

   protected static Log log = LogFactory.getLog(Sale.class);

This is hopefully the source of the error.

Thanks again,
Chris....

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