"mortena" wrote :  - Why are we using this "c...." forum when we have a tool 
like seam at our hands?
  |  - Why are JBoss not building real world applications and making som great 
marketing material to show off?

Take a look at 
http://in.relation.to 
and 
http://alpha.seamframework.org:9999 (this last one is still under heavy 
development as the address suggests) for the new Seam infrastructure (of course 
built using the Seam stack).

Also, I know our consulting teams are out there building, and helping to build, 
real applications using Seam. However most companies aren't willing to discuss 
this in public.

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