If you read the original post you will see I was well aware of the hibernate 
link, but I cannot see a linkage into the identity package any other way. 
Leading me to the conclusion that it is hardwired.

Okay, so heres the next question. I have jbpm running in jboss against a mysql 
database. I want to start a process from outside of jboss. How do I do it? I 
can connect to jboss using jmx, but nothing jbpm related is exposed. I'm not 
wanting to set up a ws just to get at jbpm.....

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