Ronald,

anonymous wrote : This is generic EL stuff.... ig you have e.g. a class Token 
with getter/setter like getId/setId, in EL you have to use token.id to have 
access to it.
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Yeah, I know... it's just that we all do bonehead things like this once in a 
while and need a hint about where we screwed up.  The log can provide this - 
maybe.  I haven't used it in this area, so I don't know what log output is 
emitted and whether it is useful.  I was hoping you might - I guess not, though!

anonymous wrote : If it is the jboss imp, it uses log4j, so turning on debug at 
the rootlevel (and reducing it to the correct classes/packages if you see some 
interesting stuff) is what I normally do.
Yes... I'm getting a sense that a lot of folks don't have the experience base 
for this to be an reflexive thing to do.  I'm starting to wonder if it makes 
sense to include a log4j.xml in the config, just to steer folks toward taking 
advantage of it.  

I guess JBPM may migrate at some point to use Seam's EL implementation 
relatively soon, so researching into specifics about log capabilities in the 
current implementation may not be that useful in the long term.  

-Ed Staub


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