alex - 

i just read the nice books that tell me how fab this would all be (if it works) 
and i'm a little nieve that i hoped that this sort of basic stuff (like i 
couldnt implement it - but these folks are clever right) just works so that 
numpties like me can get on and right straight forward applications and not 
lose hours of effort trying to implement what the books/best practice say 
should just work.

Am i wrong to wih this - how many other poor aspiring geeks are squandering 
hours in effort trying to disambiguate concept from reality on the ground.

if theres a bug here/missing whole - shouldnt the smart folks be filling it so 
idiots liek me can get on with building houses and not figuring out why the 
plumbing deoesnt work

How come nothing says what does and doesnt work and how to get started without 
falling into the abyss everytime - this is so frustrating 

Wiggy



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