As part of those dependency improvements, at the very least please be sure to 
document what versions of third party libraries are used, and if custom ones 
are required contain multiple "sub-jars", how to reconstruct them.

My original post on this thread was prompted by a bug related to EJB3 
@ManyToOne, Hibernate LAZY loading and/or javassist.  Google showed similar 
complaints and some recommendations to update to newer versions or hibernate or 
javassist. But since I have no idea what versions I'm currently using or in the 
case of customized ones, how to patch a standard version to create the 
customized packaging, I'm flying in the dark.

I've since "worked around" my bug by changing some LAZY joins to EAGER, but I 
would be much more comfortable to have been able to fix it by replacing the 
broken hibernate or javassist or ejb3 jars with properly fixed versions... 
Please don't assume that Seam users will never need to update dependency 
libraries to get fixes or new functionality independent of a new Seam release.


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